[ZWeb] Re: [Zope] Come kick some tires, at new.zope.org

Ken Manheimer klm@zope.com
Wed, 10 Oct 2001 19:01:22 -0400 (EDT)

On Wed, 10 Oct 2001, Thomas B. Passin wrote:

> [Martijn Pieters]
> > On Wed, Oct 10, 2001 at 11:06:42PM +0200, Joachim Werner wrote:

> > > I have heard things like "Zope might be cool, but can you also do
> > > NICE-LOOKING sites with it?" quite often, just because the old (and as it
> > > seems) new zope.org look so half-baked in design ...
> > [...]
> > The CMF skin system makes it easy enough to develop new skins around a
> > running site. Our current focus is new.Zope.org running; there are only so
> > many hours in a day!
> [...]
> As for " Our current focus is new.Zope.org running; there are only so many
> hours in a day!", I sympathize but if everyone took that approach to the
> software, well, that's a proven way to produce bad software.  Don't think
> it's any different for site design.

What exactly do you mean by "that approach"?  Do you realize the effort
we're investing to provide a decent site, balancing function, form, and
other (paying) business?  Martijn didn't say they're not good ideas, only
that there are limited hours in the day - we're investing substantial
portions in our community, including the site.

I think we can take the point that there's strategic benefit in extra
design attention to certain areas (eg, the front page, the overall design,
etc), without accepting the implication that we're being sloppy or
negligent.  We are trying to balance our attentions across limited
resources.  I can understand suggestions about rough spots in the design,
but suspect you may obscure your good suggestions with what seems to be
somewhat damning criticism.