[ZWeb] A new proposal (long)
Thu, 11 Apr 2002 21:03:37 +0100
Trevor Toenjes wrote:
> I am not used to a process that would attempt to finalize visual before IA,
> hence my earlier feedback. It would be easier to follow if the current IA
> is incorporated into the current visual comp.
Agreed. The problem is that we are reliant on the randomly fluctuating
amounts of time and energy in this small sub-community. Olivier had the
time and energy to kickstart the design process earlier than I had been
expecting to start it, but the great thing is that he *did* start it.
We should try to bear in mind that the design threads should really be
concentrating on look and feel, though.
> So a major goal could be, to engage the experienced developers by making it
> easier for them to contribute to the community (thus helping to develop the
> average user to a level where experienced users dont feel like they are
> carrying the technical development of Zope). It would be interesting to
> find out if Zope could attract PHP/ASP developers that felt they could have
> more of an impact on the zope community, and that we wanted them...
This is a really good interpretation, I like it.
> So I further segmented the categories of users.
> What about Newbie Links for the home page targeting different groups?
> After all, newbies only describes new to Zope, but doesnt address the wide
> range of experience among zope newbies.
How might these translate into sections? There's a lot of information
hear to organise, and prioritise.
> I think it would help to put some focus on explaining ZODB (OODB) as
> the home page. Especially with the External ZODB initiative. To use zope
> you must learn ZODB first. The survey showed everyone is technical, so let's
> give them something technical right on the home page.
Yes! I like this. Also the ZODB technology is a big concern for a lot
of people when you introduce them to Zope, and a bit of positive
branding could do it no end of good.
> For Login ... what about adding "Why join?" either in the newbie area or the
> header nav.
> Finally, my earlier premise is supported in my design of the products page,
> that allows experienced users to post a product, and allow community members
> to add better descriptions, how-tos, etc without burdening the author.
Thanks for a really thoughtful response...