[ZWeb] NZO Alpha Announcement

Sidnei da Silva sidnei@x3ng.com
Sat, 05 Apr 2003 08:37:07 -0300

Jeffrey P Shell wrote:
> On Friday, April 4, 2003, at 04:01  PM, Sidnei da Silva wrote:
> I made an alternate layout that's just straight text, and all done in 
> pure Structured Text - no HTML.  I really dislike the combination of the 
> two, which I think many people fall back on because STX's rules are 
> often unclear (I know I still get surprised too much when using it, and 
> I've been using it for years and years now).
> http://dev.nzo.zope.org/Roadmap/AlternateLayout

Looks very nice, btw.

> Oh, how I miss reStrucutredText's automatic table-of-content-generation 
> abilities!

Im sure youre not the only one. Simon says (:P) that it shouldnt be hard 
to add reST as an option on the current ZWiki. Simon?

>> I think that a Roadmap page is a nice candidate for a Wiki, but 
>> whatever is suggested would be fine for me.
> Why a full Wiki on its own, just for the Roadmap?  So anyone can update 
> it?  I see that as a valid want, but there's a lot of overhead just on 
> the User Interface just to get a single editable page - particularly one 
> that should have pretty good editorial control.    I think a small group 
> of Zope.org editors can update a normal document just fine here, with 
> less overhead on the software side and so on.  And since normal 
> documents can have comments attached as part of the CMF framework, the 
> community can still remind us to update, or add new information that the 
> editors of the site can respond to.

Under this point of view, I agree with you. +1 for normal document. 
Another thing that was mentioned on a mailing list somewere (Zope3-dev?) 
was that we *should* have STXDocument, HTMLDocument and 
PlainTextDocument instead of the funky CMFDefault document, which tries 
to do it all, but would fail miserably if we tried to add reST support 
to it.

> I agree with Simon's (much) earlier vision of a unified Zope.org Wiki.  
> I'm still not a big Wiki fan, but unifying the non-development Wiki's 
> instead of having many tiny ones is better.  I still think a lot of what 
> we may want (or may have wanted) Wikis for on the current Zope.org site 
> can be satisfied with good editor setups and commentable pages.  CMF's 
> document system which doesn't require sudden switching to the ZMI makes 
> editable pages easier.

Another good point.

> If it's meant to just be a standalone document, I'd rather have a 
> standalone document than an entire Wiki that exists purely to support 
> that one page.  If we want it to be a Wiki page, then we should come up 
> with a canonical content Wiki on the site and put it in there 
> (...zope.org/wiki/RoadMap).

After reading your comments, im +1 on a single Document, +0.5 on a Zwiki 
and +0.8 on a Wiki page.