[ZWeb] Where is the link to current RPMs gone?

Chris McDonough chrism at zope.com
Fri Aug 29 03:38:15 EDT 2003

Thanks for refreshing my memory, Paul.  I agree with most of the points
in your analysis.

I'm a bit embarrassed and frustrated by the situation.  I'd like to try
to bridge the gap between the community and ZC wrt to this situation.  I
will try to talk to Rob when possible about it and I'll report back
after I know something.

- C

On Thu, 2003-08-28 at 18:42, Paul Everitt wrote:
> Chris McDonough wrote:
> > It is indeed frustrating to have such centralized control of some
> > parts of the website and I do agree that we need to be more responsive
> > to change requests and share ownership of the shared bits.  But there
> > is no one work works at Zope Corporation whose job it is to manage the
> > website.  That's why these things get dropped on the floor.  There was
> > talk a while back of offering manager access to various folks after a
> > contributor's agreement was signed, but I have no idea where that
> > effort is now.
> I asked some questions many weeks ago but never received an answer. 
> Others also asked questions with no answer.  Andreas and I both have 
> asked whether our current manager roles mean we shouldn't log in, but 
> have received no answer.  Not a lotta love goin' on. :^)
> Here were my comments about the Zope.org Contributor Agreement:
>    http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-web/2003-July/002764.html
> Any contributions become the confidential "Protected Information" of ZC? 
>     Restricting the business activities of volunteers?  This agreement, 
> errm, needs some work, but the lack of response indicates that there 
> won't be much cooperation with the community on these points, and that's 
> sad to see.
> I also notice that the copyright on the bottom of all the pages on 
> zope.org says that ZC holds the copyright to all the community content. 
>   I'm sure it's an accident, and might have been there before.  But this 
> surprising contributor agreement gives reason to be suspicious of intent.
> PieterB gave the best solution: just use the stinking Zope Contributor 
> Agreement, and get people to sign a one-paragraph confidentiality 
> document.  Why must our free work become ZC's "Protected Information"?
> ZC must address this contributor agreement before people take notice of 
> it.  It's embarassing to the Zope community and harmful to ZC's place in 
> the community, and the ongoing silence is an insult.
> --Paul

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