[ZWeb] FYI: Readying the "Zope Download Center"
Guido van Rossum
Sun, 12 Jan 2003 13:31:43 -0500
> >>>Hm. For python.org, we use something called Webalizer, which scans
> >>>Apache-style log file. Since Zope wrotes those too, I'm not sure what
> >>>the problem is for a single site. Integrating the results back into
> >>I did this back in July. Here's the problems I discovered:
> >>1) URLs make it hard to accurately say "what is zope". There's
> >>different versions of Zope, there's patch files, there are the
> >>different binaries.
> > I don't understand this. Where do you need to know "what is Zope"
> > when scanning the log files? Probably you skipped a step in your
> > reasoning.
> Ok, tell me the regular expression that you would match on in the log
> file. I'm not as good as you are at regular expressions.
> I was trying to match on the processed results in webalizer, since I
> didn't have access.
I don't know enough to answer that question: I don't know what the
existing logs look like, but more importantly I don't know what you're
looking for. But I'll gladly accept your explanation that it was
simply a lack of regex zen on your part.
> >>2) The log files are currently being munched by webalizer and then
> >>thrown out. Thus, if the URL you want isn't in the list of top 20
> >>hits, you're screwed. All the information is lost, since the original
> >>data are deleted. (This was the problem that blocked me, as I never
> >>had access to the boxes where the munching was done).
> > That's an operational problem that can be fixed.
> I was told that as well. It's been 7 months. Is the data still being
I don't dwell in the past. We have a new sysadmin now (who needs to
get up to speed first). I've asked what the status is and I'll try to
> Do you think you can tell us how many downloads of Zope were there in
> 2002? That would really be helpful marketing information.
That's a concrete question. I'll try to get it answered.
> > wait that much longer. In the mean time, all I'm asking (and have
> > still not heard) is where on zope.org the pointers to the SF downloads
> > are. If there aren't any, how are people going to find these?
> My email at the top of this thread explained this:
> Based on the agreed decision to pursue this, Sidnei and I said we'd do
> some work and come back with the results. Well, it looks good and we're
> ready to take the next step:
> The next step is to get this woven into the /Products page, which could
> also use some sprucing up. We hope to get this done soon, in advance of
> the 2.6.1 release.
> Sidnei and I promised on this list to do some investigation and report
> back. We did the investigation, we're now reporting back.
> Changing your question to where the links will be, I'll put them on the
> /Products page this week, along with an improved organization and
> presentation of the download options.
Great! Let us know when they are up.
--Guido van Rossum (home page: http://www.python.org/~guido/)