[ZWeb] Not another ___Nuke site, please

robert rottermann robert@redcor.ch
Tue, 14 Jan 2003 18:24:57 +0100

I consider CMF to be a toolset one can build a CMS from.
Plone IS a CMS=20


Am Dienstag, 14. Januar 2003 11.34 schrieb Paul Everitt:
> Ausum Studio wrote:
> > What it's in discussion, up to the extent of what current nzo develop=
> > responsibles allow, is whether or not the new ZopeOrg should use Plon=
> > for the sake of a faster deployment and future maintaining facilities=
, or
> > not. If the problem was reduced to that I'd say OK, but unfortunately
> > nzo's technology adoptions will be a reference point of what Zope and=
> > Content Management Framework is, and therefore will act as an endorse=
> > of the whole community (or at least ZC's on behalf of it) to the desi=
> > decisions of its developers.
> This is an important and useful point.  I'm not sure, though, what to
> conclude from it.
> For instance, nzo is using the CMF.  The CMF isn't universally accepted
> in Zopeland, though it's getting closer.  According to this argument,
> nzo is making an endorsement that the CMF is the right way to build
> content management sites.
> I can live with that endorsement.  At some point you have to do one of
> two things:
> a. Endorse something that exists, or...
> b. Rewrite everything above bare Zope from scratch.
> As an example of the benefit of promoting one of Zope's most active ope=
> source projects, here is a snippet from Zope Newbies today:
> "Over the holiday break I worked on a relaunch of one of my existing we=
> sites, using plone, a content management system based on Zope. I'm very
> impressed! Combined with my modest Zope skills, I've been able to get a=
> impressive amount of work done in a short time."
> Who wrote this?  Edd Dumbill, the managing editor of XML.com.  I
> consider it a good thing that Edd is in Zopeland and saying good things
> in public about Plone and Zope.
> Would Edd have used Zope if he had to write everything from scratch?
> Doubt it.  He probably wanted something that could provide a moderate
> benefit with minimum investment.  IMO, giving Plone (and other Zope
> success stories) some exposure can help generate more stories like Edd.
> Still, we need the balance that your point provides.  I think the item
> that is under discussion is to *offer* Plone as a choice, not mandate i=
> --Paul
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