[ZWeb] V3 Updated

Tom Von Lahndorff tom at modscape.com
Thu Mar 23 15:24:54 EST 2006

>>>>> - I think fly out menus on Web pages just don't Feel Good (not to
>>>>>   mention the debatable usability problems they might introduce 
>>>>> [2]).
>>>> See Mike D.'s comments on that article which pretty  much sums  
>>>> up my rationale and implementation.
>>> Still not convinced, but that's just me. We don't have such a  
>>> deep structure or information density, I would simply put a  
>>> context navigation on the left (or right) for each section but  
>>> not on the homepage, like on this two pages:
>>> <http://www.mozilla.org/support/>
>>> <http://www.mozilla.org/about/>
>>> Very simple.
>> Not really. Just the opposite actually, confusing. My design is  
>> certainly more "simple" than mozilla's. Inconsistent page layout.  
>> I like sites that have a consistent layout throughout, including  
>> the homepage. It's confusing when the navigation changes on a page  
>> by page basis. In my case there's no scheme that the user has to  
>> *get*.
> I agree that the consistency is a hight priority (nevertheless I  
> find mozilla.org pretty user friendly).
> I also think a *visible* 2nd level navigation is very important for  
> orientation. Maybe we agree on the basic question of a random  
> visitor on a Web site:
> A) Where am I?
> B) Where do I come from (or how did I come here)?
> C) Where can I go from here?
> To answer B the page must either have a navigation system in which  
> the context is obvious, or at least a breadcrumb navigation trail.
> If you have a visible 2nd (and maybe 3rd) level navigation the fly  
> out menus become redundant. Note: I'm not saying that the  
> navigation must change on different sections or that the fly out  
> menus must be disabled to achieve this.
> Tonico

I was actually thinking about the idea of having breadcrumbs. I think  
that may be a good solution that satisfies consistency and keeps the  
clutter down. I agree that B is very important since I'd imagine that  
a lot of user will come from search results pages. Does anyone have  
any numbers on where people come from and navigate to on the current  
zope.org site?

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