[Zope] OT: MS Outlook sucks

Wilkinson Charlie E Charlie.E.Wilkinson@irs.gov
Wed, 28 Jun 2000 13:10:47 -0400


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...but you already knew that didn't you?

First, an apology for previously sending MIME/html crap to
the list, even after being told about it and after I thought
I had it turned off, and another apology for this OT message
while I'm at it.

I think I've got it now.  Using OL2k(CW) here, and I had set
"plain text" everywhere I could find to set it.  After
visiting the Zope mailing list archives today, I was alarmed
to find that I was *still* sending out MIME/html attachments.
(A hearty thanks to the list members for not beating me up
about this.)  I checked the messages in my Sent box and these
very same MIME/html attachement messages were listed as
having been sent in plain text.  Grrr...

After much bitching, whining and research, I stumbled across
what is possibly a fix.  It seems that OL2k requires Outlook
Express for some of its functionality, especially some aspects
of handling SMTP (Internet) e-mail.  I've never used OE for
anything (on purpose), but I fired it up and checked the
format for sending messages.  It was set to html.  It's now
set to plain text.  So maybe, just *maybe* its fixed now.
(If it's not, then I've got some more bitching and whining
to do...)

I'm hoping this info might help anyone else here who may be
having this problem.

Sorry,
	Charlie

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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>...but you already knew that didn't you?</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>First, an apology for previously sending MIME/html =
crap to</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>the list, even after being told about it and after I =
thought</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>I had it turned off, and another apology for this OT =
message</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>while I'm at it.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>I think I've got it now.&nbsp; Using OL2k(CW) here, =
and I had set</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&quot;plain text&quot; everywhere I could find to =
set it.&nbsp; After</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>visiting the Zope mailing list archives today, I was =
alarmed</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>to find that I was *still* sending out MIME/html =
attachments.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>(A hearty thanks to the list members for not beating =
me up</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>about this.)&nbsp; I checked the messages in my Sent =
box and these</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>very same MIME/html attachement messages were listed =
as</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>having been sent in plain text.&nbsp; Grrr...</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>After much bitching, whining and research, I stumbled =
across</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>what is possibly a fix.&nbsp; It seems that OL2k =
requires Outlook</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Express for some of its functionality, especially =
some aspects</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>of handling SMTP (Internet) e-mail.&nbsp; I've never =
used OE for</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>anything (on purpose), but I fired it up and checked =
the</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>format for sending messages.&nbsp; It was set to =
html.&nbsp; It's now</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>set to plain text.&nbsp; So maybe, just *maybe* its =
fixed now.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>(If it's not, then I've got some more bitching and =
whining</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>to do...)</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>I'm hoping this info might help anyone else here who =
may be</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>having this problem.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Sorry,</FONT>
<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <FONT =
SIZE=3D2>Charlie</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>-- </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Charlie Wilkinson - TRIS Development Systems =
Administrator </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>IS:SD:CT:CC:TD</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Phone: 202-283-3241 </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>MSMail:&nbsp;&nbsp; Charlie E Wilkinson &lt;<A =
HREF=3D"mailto:Charlie">mailto:Charlie</A> E Wilkinson&gt;&nbsp; =
</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>SMTP:&nbsp; cwilkins@tris.irs.gov &lt;<A =
HREF=3D"mailto:cwilkins@tris.irs.gov">mailto:cwilkins@tris.irs.gov</A>&g=
t;&nbsp; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Home:&nbsp; cwilkins@boinklabs.com </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>This message constructed from 90% post-consumer =
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