[Zope] ZServer *still* dying - help?

Chris McDonough chrism@digicool.com
Thu, 5 Apr 2001 17:07:44 -0400


OK, I've been able to reproduce it.  I have no idea of its cause however...
but its definitely a Zope bug.  We'll get on it.

- C


----- Original Message -----
From: "Mayers, Philip J" <p.mayers@ic.ac.uk>
To: "'Chris McDonough '" <chrism@digicool.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 4:53 PM
Subject: RE: [Zope] ZServer *still* dying - help?


> Urk - ipchains error. Try it now.
>
> Cheers,
> Phil
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris McDonough
> To: Mayers, Philip J; zope@zope.org
> Sent: 05/04/01 20:59
> Subject: Re: [Zope] ZServer *still* dying - help?
>
> I can't seem to download the zexp... maybe an internet wind?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mayers, Philip J" <p.mayers@ic.ac.uk>
> To: "'Chris McDonough'" <chrism@digicool.com>; <zope@zope.org>
> Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 3:27 PM
> Subject: RE: [Zope] ZServer *still* dying - help?
>
>
> > It seems to be very difficult to get a consistently failing test case,
> but
> > easier with the DB adaptor. That said, how about this:
> >
> > http://blacklotus.cc.ic.ac.uk/~pjm3/bug2.zexp
> >
> > Seems to suffer from the same problem, and has *no* dependencies
> (doesn't
> > need a database or any products). Simply import it, hammer the
> > /HDB/showmachine_html url without a ?machineid=whatever, it seems ok,
> hammer
> > it *with* the argument, it fails. You will probably need to use the
> floodget
> > script I link earlier, unless you can press F5 *really* fast ;o)
> >
> > Regards,
> > Phil
> >
> > +----------------------------------+
> > | Phil Mayers, Network Support     |
> > | Centre for Computing Services    |
> > | Imperial College                 |
> > +----------------------------------+
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Chris McDonough [mailto:chrism@digicool.com]
> > Sent: 05 April 2001 19:50
> > To: Mayers, Philip J; Thomas B. Passin; zope@zope.org
> > Subject: Re: [Zope] ZServer *still* dying - help?
> >
> >
> > Thank you very much for your work on packaging this up.  But... I
> thought
> it
> > happened without postgres and that it was a property of calling a DTML
> > method from a python script with a lot of arguments?
> >
> > A very simple example without postgres would be way better, even if
> it's
> > just, "here's two methods, type them in, view one, and keep clicking
> refresh
> > really fast".  If it's a bug in Zope, and it's reproducible I'll try
> to
> fix
> > it.  If it's a bug in the postgres DA, I'd like to try, but I can't
> really
> > spend much time on it.  As well, the maintainer of the DA should be
> > involved.
> >
> > If you can't send something that doesn't involve the DA, I
> understand...
> but
> > I won't be able to do much with it today.
> >
> > Tks!
> >
> > - C
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Mayers, Philip J" <p.mayers@ic.ac.uk>
> > To: "'Chris McDonough'" <chrism@digicool.com>; "Thomas B. Passin"
> > <tpassin@mitretek.org>; <zope@zope.org>
> > Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 2:40 PM
> > Subject: RE: [Zope] ZServer *still* dying - help?
> >
> >
> > > Ok, I've got a "fails reliably once every few (>15) request" still
> held
> > over
> > > from the last person I sent it to - it *still* fails on Zope 2.3.1,
> I've
> > got
> > > a zexp and the full instructions:
> > >
> > > Ok, the zexp should be accessible from:
> > >
> > > http://blacklotus.cc.ic.ac.uk/~pjm3/bug.zexp
> > >
> > > You'll need Psycopg installed and a Postgresql server. I used
> > > psycopg-0.4.6.tar.gz, available from:
> > >
> > > http://blacklotus.cc.ic.ac.uk/~pjm3/psycopg-0.4.6.tar.gz (note -
> same
> > > results with 0.5.1)
> > >
> > > If you can't get a Postgresql server, let me know and you can point
> it
> at
> > > mine (I'll need to know the subnet(s) you'll be coming from). The
> > following
> > > should create everything needed to repro the bug:
> > >
> > > CREATE TABLE machine (
> > > machineid text,
> > > owner text NOT NULL,
> > > ownerdept text NOT NULL,
> > > owneremail text NOT NULL,
> > > ownertel text,
> > > machinetype text,
> > > machineos text,
> > > machineserialno text,
> > > location text NOT NULL,
> > > comment text,
> > > updatedby text,
> > > updatedat timestamp,
> > > PRIMARY KEY (machineid)
> > > );
> > >
> > > insert into machine (machineid, owner, ownerdept, owneremail,
> ownertel,
> > > machinetype, machineos, machineserialno, location, comment,
> updatedby,
> > > updatedat) values ('wildfire.net.ic.ac.uk', 'Phil Mayers', '410 Mech
> Eng',
> > > 'p.mayers@ic.ac.uk', '46973', 'PC NT / Linux',  '410 Mech Eng',
> 'batch',
> > > now())
> > >
> > > Import the ZEXP, then try getting:
> > >
> > > http://zope.server:port/showmachine_html
> > >
> > > Very quickly, possibly using the script I posted yesterday:
> > >
> > > http://blacklotus.cc.ic.ac.uk/~pjm3/floodget.py
> > >
> > > Usage: floodget.py server:port /url/file?argument1=value1 username
> > password
> > > number_of_threads
> > > So: floodget.py server.com:8080 /showmachine_html username pass 100
> > >
> > > I use either 100 or 1000 threads. All should be well. Now try:
> > >
> > >
> http://zope.server:port/showmachine_html?machineid=wildfire.net.ic.ac.uk
> > >
> > > I get failures and the child threads dying quickly with only 5-25
> threads.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Phil
> > >
> > > +----------------------------------+
> > > | Phil Mayers, Network Support     |
> > > | Centre for Computing Services    |
> > > | Imperial College                 |
> > > +----------------------------------+
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Chris McDonough [mailto:chrism@digicool.com]
> > > Sent: 05 April 2001 18:06
> > > To: Chris McDonough; Thomas B. Passin; zope@zope.org
> > > Subject: Re: [Zope] ZServer *still* dying - help?
> > >
> > >
> > > Wait, no I *didnt* write a unit test for this.  Sorry!  I wrote a
> unit
> > test
> > > that sends lots of named parameters to a python script, not a dtml
> > method...
> > >
> > > If you can boil this down to an always-fails case we can fix it.
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Chris McDonough" <chrism@digicool.com>
> > > To: "Thomas B. Passin" <tpassin@mitretek.org>; <zope@zope.org>
> > > Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 12:56 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [Zope] ZServer *still* dying - help?
> > >
> > >
> > > > It still shouldn't be crashing.
> > > >
> > > > I wrote a unit test for this!!  (testParam26 in the test suite)
> ;-)
> > > Wonder
> > > > if it passes... it does.  Darn.
> > > >
> > > > What Zope version is this?
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Thomas B. Passin" <tpassin@mitretek.org>
> > > > To: <zope@zope.org>
> > > > Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 12:49 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [Zope] ZServer *still* dying - help?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > I don't know what's happening, but what about attaching the
> params
> to
> > > the
> > > > > REQUEST, then you don't have to send them separately.  Of
> course,
> > you'd
> > > > have
> > > > > to rewrite show_html a bit, but it shouldn't take much doing.
> > > > >
> > > > > Then you would write things like
> > > > > ...
> > > > > <dtml-call "REQUEST.set('param1',m.param1)">
> > > > > ...
> > > > >  print container.machine.show_html(context,REQUEST)
> > > > >
> > > > > Or make the separate params into a single python list and pass
> the
> > list:
> > > > >
> > > > > params=[m.param1,m.param2,...]
> > > > > print container.machine.show_html(context,REQUEST,params)
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers,
> > > > >
> > > > > Tom P
> > > > >
> > > > > Mayers, Philip J asked -
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What's happening - I have a PythonScript that does this:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > m = container.machine.SQL_get(machineid=machineid)[0]
> > > > > > print container.machine.show_html(context,REQUEST,
> > > > > >                                   param1=m.param1,
> > > > > >                                   param2=m.param2,
> > > > > >                                   param3=m.param3,
> > > > > >                                   param4=m.param4,
> > > > > >                                   param5=m.param5,
> > > > > >                                   param6=m.param6,
> > > > > >                                   param7=m.param7,
> > > > > >                                   param8=m.param8,
> > > > > >                                   param9=m.param9,
> > > > > >                                   param0=m.param0)
> > > > > > return printed
> > > > > >
> > > > > > show_html is a DTML document. When called at "high" speed (2-3
> times
> > a
> > > > > > second) by URL traversal (i.e. GETing
> > > > > > http://site.name/Zope/path/pythonscript?machineid=whatever)
> this
> > > causes
> > > > > > either (in order of likelihood):
> > > > > >  ...
> > > > >
> > > > > > *But*, if I reduce the number of named parameters to the DTML
> method
> > > > (when
> > > > > > of course it doesn't render properly) then everything's OK.
> The
> > > current
> > > > > code
> > > > > > dies if there are >8 named parameters. But it seems to vary. I
> > thought
> > > > > that
> > > > > > the parameters had to be records from an SQL query, but now
> I'm
> not
> > so
> > > > > sure.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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