hi out of curiosity (which will surely kill the cat ;)) which version of zeo is zope.org running? 0.4.1 or the cvs? i checked out zeo out of cvs, and installed on dev machine, and all looks= ok.=20 if zope.org uses the pre 1.0 beta, i'll likely follow :) thanks --=20 http://www.kedai.com.my/kk=20 http://www.kedai.com.my/eZine=20 use Zope? then you got HOPE!