[Zope] listservs, forums and Zope...

Charlie Blanchard charlie@blanchardsite.com
Thu, 10 May 2001 23:08:36 -0700

Just my $0.02 - the topic of wanting Mailman integrated with Zope seems
to come up often in the demos and presentations I've been giving
out here in Southern California... <sigh>

On Thu, May 10, 2001 at 11:18:14PM -0400, Barry A. Warsaw wrote:
> >>>>> "JB" == Joel Burton <jburton@scw.org> writes:
>     JB> We use mailman, which is, IMHO, much easier to administer than
>     JB> majordomo, and much less expensive than Listserv.
> That's great to hear! :)
>     JB> Mailman isn't a Zope product per se, but it is programmed in
>     JB> python, and it's stuff is stored in python marshalled data, so
>     JB> it's fairly easy to get at.
>     JB> If I can offer specific help on places you're stuck, let me
>     JB> know.
> Given that a former and current Mailman developer both work for DC,
> there's a darn good chance that it will become easier and easier to
> integrate Mailman and Zope.  I have plans for Mailman 3.0 to rewrite
> the underlying database code so that e.g. ZODB could be plugged in
> instead of the homegrown, hardwired marshaling approach.  I also have
> plans for writing interfaces so that authentication and memberships
> can be handed off to external (to Mailman) processes, e.g. Zope and
> CMF.  And it would be cool if the UI could be pluggable too so that
> things like Presentation Templates or other Zope UI mechanisms can be
> used.
> Really, the grand plan for Mailman 3.0 is to sort of turn it inside
> out, so that it's a package of functionality that can be plugged into
> all sorts of other frameworks.  Then there'll probably be a "Mailman
> classic" framework so that you can continue run it standalone if you
> want.
> Don't ask me when that'll happen, I've no idea.  First I need to get
> the current 2.1 code base out of alpha so that there's a solid
> internationalized Mailman release (with, of course, lots of other
> wizzy new features :).
> Cheers,
> -Barry

charlie blanchard
LosAngeles area Zope Users Group http://lazug.org