[Zope] the mysterious shutdown thing

Fritz Mesedilla fritz.mesedilla@summitmedia.com.ph
Sat, 12 May 2001 01:51:49 +0800


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the mysterious shutdown thingi have been experiencing that too.
but i noticed that the zope process is slowly increasing its memory
consumption that my 500MB swap file was turned to zero. i therefore
increased the swapfile to 1GB. it hasn't stopped ever since. based on our
visitor access, our swap file reached 800MB. oh by the way, our servers have
128MB ram. that could also be it.

we also have the servers in zeo. the main server hasn't stopped running with
a 400MB swap file since the client servers with 1GB swap files are the ones
taking the load.

good luck!

Fritz Mesedilla
Systems Administrator

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  -----Original Message-----
  From: zope-admin@zope.org [mailto:zope-admin@zope.org]On Behalf Of Hank
Bowry
  Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2001 1:25 AM
  To: 'zope@zope.org'
  Subject: [Zope] the mysterious shutdown thing


  >  concerning this thread...
  >
  > I'm experiencing very, very similar symptoms.  I have zope installed
with
  > the newest src 2.3.2 (i think) running with apache and pcgi and have
been
  > having periodic shutdowns of zope.....I've been tailing the logs for
apache
  > and zope, and the only thing is after zope goes down, apache logs that
it
  > can't be reached....restarting zope works fine, and everything marches
  > on.....unfortunately this can't be the case after our projected june 1st
  > lauch of the a website.....I'd love to find the solution to this
problem, or
  > any hints about where or what to log to even identify the cause.
  >
  > we are running zope 2.3.2 in /opt/zope with apache from the SuSE 7.1
  > distribution....I've loaded the mod_python, and php, and backhand and
some
  > others, but I think only the pcgi and python have anything to do with
  > zope...
  >
  > on top of the basic installation,
  > I have installed Zcatalog, tinytables plus, squishdot, the zope hotfix,
and
  > yihaw
  >
  > somewhere in one of these installations was added another python
directory
  > (and I think this contributes to some or our problems, but I don't know
how
  > to prove it or change it) now, under zope we have a python (which is
version
  > 2) and a python 1.5.2 directory .....I'm not sure which piece may be
calling
  > which version, and which one maybe causing the shutdown.....
  >
  > any enlightenment will be greatly greatly greatly appreciated.
  >
  > thanks,
  > Hank Bowry
  > hank@broughton-sys.com
  >
  > Today's Topics:
  >
  >    1. zope hangs vs: Re: [Zope] ZServer Must Be Continually Re-Started:
  >        my Method  to stop zope dead: (Tino Wildenhain)
  >    2. Re: ZServer Must Be Continually Re-Started: my Method to stop zope
  > dead: timeoutsocket: (Gilles Lavaux)
  >
  > Message: 1
  > Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 15:25:35 +0200
  > From: Tino Wildenhain <tino@wildenhain.de>
  > To: Ben Ocean <zope@thewebsons.com>,
  >       Gilles Lavaux <gilles.lavaux@esrin.esa.it>
  > Cc: zope@zope.org
  > Subject: zope hangs vs: Re: [Zope] ZServer Must Be Continually
  > Re-Started:
  >  my Method  to stop zope dead:
  >
  > Hi Ben,
  >
  > no this is completly different to your problem.
  > Dont know why these threads are intermixed.
  >
  > The problem below is zope not responding to requests
  > but still beeing running.
  >
  > Your problem is different:
  >
  > zope stops running instantly.
  >
  > So I expect something in your environment and/or python
  > version. Do you have a plain install or did you install
  > additionally products with zope?
  >
  > Regards
  > Tino Wildenhain
  >


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  <DIV align=3Dleft class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr><FONT =
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  size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> =
zope-admin@zope.org=20
  [mailto:zope-admin@zope.org]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Hank =
Bowry<BR><B>Sent:</B>=20
  Saturday, May 12, 2001 1:25 AM<BR><B>To:</B>=20
  'zope@zope.org'<BR><B>Subject:</B> [Zope] the mysterious shutdown=20
  thing<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
  <P><FONT size=3D2>&gt;&nbsp; concerning this thread... =
</FONT><BR><FONT=20
  size=3D2>&gt; </FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt; I'm experiencing very, =
very similar=20
  symptoms.&nbsp; I have zope installed with </FONT><BR><FONT =
size=3D2>&gt; the=20
  newest src 2.3.2 (i think) running with apache and pcgi and have been=20
  </FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt; having periodic shutdowns of =
zope.....I've been=20
  tailing the logs for apache </FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt; and zope, =
and the=20
  only thing is after zope goes down, apache logs that it =
</FONT><BR><FONT=20
  size=3D2>&gt; can't be reached....restarting zope works fine, and =
everything=20
  marches </FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt; on.....unfortunately this can't =
be the=20
  case after our projected june 1st </FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt; lauch =
of the a=20
  website.....I'd love to find the solution to this problem, or =
</FONT><BR><FONT=20
  size=3D2>&gt; any hints about where or what to log to even identify =
the cause.=20
  </FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt; </FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt; we are =
running zope=20
  2.3.2 in /opt/zope with apache from the SuSE 7.1 </FONT><BR><FONT =
size=3D2>&gt;=20
  distribution....I've loaded the mod_python, and php, and backhand and =
some=20
  </FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt; others, but I think only the pcgi and =
python have=20
  anything to do with </FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt; zope... =
</FONT><BR><FONT=20
  size=3D2>&gt; </FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt; on top of the basic =
installation,=20
  </FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt; I have installed Zcatalog, tinytables =
plus,=20
  squishdot, the zope hotfix, and </FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt; yihaw=20
  </FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt; </FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt; =
somewhere in one of=20
  these installations was added another python directory =
</FONT><BR><FONT=20
  size=3D2>&gt; (and I think this contributes to some or our problems, =
but I don't=20
  know how </FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt; to prove it or change it) now, =
under=20
  zope we have a python (which is version </FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt; =
2) and a=20
  python 1.5.2 directory .....I'm not sure which piece may be calling=20
  </FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt; which version, and which one maybe =
causing the=20
  shutdown..... </FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt; </FONT><BR><FONT =
size=3D2>&gt; any=20
  enlightenment will be greatly greatly greatly appreciated. =
</FONT><BR><FONT=20
  size=3D2>&gt; </FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt; thanks, </FONT><BR><FONT =
size=3D2>&gt;=20
  Hank Bowry </FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt; hank@broughton-sys.com=20
  </FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt; </FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt; Today's =
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size=3D2>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 1.=20
  zope hangs vs: Re: [Zope] ZServer Must Be Continually Re-Started:=20
  </FONT><BR><FONT =
size=3D2>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; my=20
  Method&nbsp; to stop zope dead: (Tino Wildenhain) </FONT><BR><FONT=20
  size=3D2>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 2. Re: ZServer Must Be Continually =
Re-Started:=20
  my Method to stop zope </FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt; dead: =
timeoutsocket:=20
  (Gilles Lavaux) </FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  </FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt; Message: 1 </FONT><BR><FONT =
size=3D2>&gt; Date:=20
  Fri, 11 May 2001 15:25:35 +0200 </FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt; From: =
Tino=20
  Wildenhain &lt;tino@wildenhain.de&gt; </FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt; =
To: Ben=20
  Ocean &lt;zope@thewebsons.com&gt;, </FONT><BR><FONT=20
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  &lt;gilles.lavaux@esrin.esa.it&gt; </FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt; Cc:=20
  zope@zope.org </FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt; Subject: zope hangs vs: =
Re: [Zope]=20
  ZServer Must Be Continually </FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt; Re-Started: =

  </FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt;&nbsp; my Method&nbsp; to stop zope =
dead:=20
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  </FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt; </FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt; no this =
is completly=20
  different to your problem. </FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt; Dont know =
why these=20
  threads are intermixed. </FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt; =
</FONT><BR><FONT=20
  size=3D2>&gt; The problem below is zope not responding to requests=20
  </FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt; but still beeing running. =
</FONT><BR><FONT=20
  size=3D2>&gt; </FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt; Your problem is =
different:=20
  </FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt; </FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt; zope =
stops running=20
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size=3D2>&gt; So I=20
  expect something in your environment and/or python </FONT><BR><FONT=20
  size=3D2>&gt; version. Do you have a plain install or did you install=20
  </FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt; additionally products with zope? =
</FONT><BR><FONT=20
  size=3D2>&gt; </FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt; Regards </FONT><BR><FONT =
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  Tino Wildenhain </FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt;=20
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