[Zope] zopelogo nerves

kosh@aesaeion.com kosh@aesaeion.com
Tue, 22 May 2001 14:09:55 -0600 (MDT)


You might want to consider a few things. There are many areas that IE is
far more broken then Netscape and many still use Netscape becuase it has
far fewer security exploits then IE does.

For example

IE seems to ignore the entire HTTP/1.1 spec caching directivs. IE can
redraw fast because it does not rehit the web server which is requried by
spec with the headers I have used.

IE ignores mime types in many cases.

IE returns an incorrect HTTP_ACCEPT string in the REQUEST.

As far as rendering goes IE may be better in some areas but as far as
working with them server side IE is a royal pain in the ass and Netscape
works far better.

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On Tue, 22 May 2001, Jeff Peterson wrote:

> If you are on a Windows platform use IE, if you don't want IE, use Opera 5.x
> both support png format and are compliant with CSS and the W3C standards.
> Linux users can use Opera, I have not tested it on Linux, however if it
> works like it does on Windows, you're golden.  If you use Netscape because
> of some deep seeded hatred for IE/Microsoft/Bill Gates or are just unwilling
> to change, well then suffer.  Not using superior tools when you can is your
> fault.
>
> To users of UNIX on platforms such as Sun, SGI, etc.: Netscape is still part
> of the "browser wars" because of you!  Put pressure on these people to
> pressure Netscape into adding support for the latest technologies.  The HTML
> 4 spec is 4 years old!  How long has CSS1 and png been around?  I feel for
> you, I really do.  My guess is that most of you would change if you could.
> My big problem is that somewhere a line has to be drawn between specs, ease
> of development and who can see your stuff or how they can see it at least.
>
> I hope that I did not offend anyone, it was not my intention.
>
> --
> Jeffrey D. Peterson
> Webmaster/Web & Web Applications Engineer
> Range TV Cable & Broadband
> 1818 E. 3rd Ave.  Hibbing, MN 55746
> jpeterso@rangebroadband.com
>
>
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: zope-admin@zope.org [mailto:zope-admin@zope.org]On Behalf Of
> > Andreas Heckel
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 10:32 AM
> > To: zope@zope.org
> > Subject: [Zope] zopelogo nerves
> >
> >
> > I don't want to initiate a Browser compatibility flame war.
> > But is it necessity to bother all zope.org visitors with that
> > zopelogo.png ? Please have a look at your User Agent statistic.
> > There are many users who are using Netscape 4.x. This browser is
> > unable to render transparent png images in proper style.
> >
> > --
> > _______________________________________________________________________
> > Andreas Heckel                                  andreas@easyleading.org
> > LINUX is like a wigwam...no gates...no windows and an apache inside ;-)
> >
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