[Zope] future direction (was "problems with SiteRoot in Zope2.5.1")
Mon, 29 Jul 2002 13:52:52 -0700
Technically, no, you don't have a right to complain but you do have a very
good point. I'd like to echo it and point out the problem is exacerbated by
zope.org not having a strong way of marking docs and products as deprecated.
I hate finding a cool product, downloading and installing, only to learn it
fell out of fashion with 2.something. Ideally, such pages should be marked
and linked to whatever is the latest greatest substitute or just marked as
dead to Zopes 2.x+
I keep coming back to that scene in Apocalypse Now:
"Who's in charge here, soldier?"
Granted, that's not a great metaphor for Zope but I do have that feeling
with free software pretty often.
FWIW, commercial development tools are often no better.
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> Subject: Re: [Zope] future direction (was "problems with SiteRoot in
> So, speaking as a perennial Zope newbie, I have to say that I'm getting
> nervous about seeing all the things that I use fall one-by-one into the
> "that's depreciated, use this other cool product instead." I don't think
> I have a right to complain, but I'm complaining any way :-)
> On Mon, 2002-07-29 at 10:04, Evan Simpson wrote:
> > Chris Withers wrote:
> > > Yes, SiteRoots are no longer in favour with the powers that
> be. I still
> > > think they have their uses ;-)
> > Citizen Withers, your statement violates the Happy Voluntary Product
> > Guidelines. Please report to the nearest PTB Help Station for
> > assistance. ;-)
> > >> Does anybody know whether it is possible to have a
> configuration with
> > >> both
> > >> http and https directing to the same pages like the example
> in the above
> > >> mentioned document (apache_zserver_ssl)?
> > Ria, we'll need more info on the problem you're having in order
> to help.
> > If you do decide to try VHM, you should be able to get what you want
> > with the following steps:
> > 1. Create a VHM in your Zope root. Call it whatever you like, as long
> > as the name doesn't clash with other objects ids, perhaps "vhm".
> > 2. In the Apache VirtualHost section for port 80, replace the ProxyPass
> > and ProxyPassReverse lines with the single line:
> > ProxyPass /
> > 3. In the Apache VirtualHost section for port 443 (https), replace the
> > ProxyPass and ProxyPassReverse lines with the single line:
> > ProxyPass /
> > In the examples above, "zope_server:8080" is the host/port on
> which your
> > Zope is listening, "www.domain.com" is your site's domain name, and
> > "site_path" is the path from the root of your Zope to the Folder which
> > contains this site (leave it out if your site lives in the Zope root).
> > You can determine whether a particular request uses SSL by checking
> > "REQUEST['URL'].startswith('https')".
> > Cheers,
> > Evan @ 4-am
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