[Zope] Re: Zope Foundation Update

[robert rottermann]

Andreas Jung wrote:
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>
> --On 20. Juli 2005 19:17:59 -0500 George Donnelly <list at zettai.net> 
> wrote:
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>> Hadar Pedhazur wrote:
>>
>> ZC says: the marks were stolen
>> ZEA seems to be saying: the marks were registered defensively.
>>
>> My read on this is that there is a serious communication problem going
>> on here between the lines. Why doesn't Paul come out and state what the
>> ZEA position is? Why are ZC's words so angry?
>>
>
> I am disappointed hearing that ZEA registered the trademarks silently 
> already 18 months ago. The German Zope User Group (DZUG) asked ZC for 
> permission using the Zope logo and the domain name zope.de for our 
> community websites (which was never a problem). But in this case we 
> would have to ask ZEA for permission as keeper of the trademarks in 
> Europe?! I am sorry to say this but the secrecy on the ZEA side is not 
> really acceptable. I can understand ZEA argument to have registered 
> the trademarks for defending Zope from improper use but why did not 
> you notify ZC or the community about it? As someone working in the 
> Zope business I need to know who is having what and why. Such things 
> should not kept secret when you are dealing in the open-source 
> business. So this whole issue is a shame for the complete Zope community.
>
> -aj
>
I am a casual watcher of what happens in the Zope community (I only 
check the development things actively).
However I believe that I knew that ZE did register the Zope logo.
(All tough "instinctively" I would have to have gone to ZC to ask for 
permission to use it should the need have presented itself).
So I do not believe it really was a secret, neither is it a cause for 
disappointment. Somebody had to do it and sometimes you just have to 
move forward. This is fine with me  if you do so as a "good" community 
member trying to secure things without going into to much of the legal 
paperwork that is sure to erupt when you deal in such affairs with an US 
company.

It is the handling of affairs that is .. what should I say .. fascinating.

Somehow I have the impression that we had similar exchanges on these 
canals amongst the same performers before.
Seems that being a good person does not necessarily mean you are a nice one.


Robert