[Zope] Re: newbie -- creating a Product

michael nt milne michael.milne at gmail.com
Tue Nov 7 10:33:55 EST 2006


Max M wrote:

"Btw. I don't see any reason to use words like 'drivel' and 'bullshit'.

"It is rude and counterproductive. And I don't recall that I have been
rude on this list in general or to you specifically."

Of course it is rude and counterproductive. It seems to be a feature on this
list being rude and immature. Not from everyone of course, just from the
minority. If certain 'personality types' get irritated when reading and
replying to a community support list, they shouldn't be here. You've just
got to ignore it and put it down to a 'lack of class' as another list member
put it.

On 11/7/06, Jonathan <dev10n1 at magma.ca> wrote:
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> From: "Tres Seaver" <tseaver at palladion.com>
> To: <zope at zope.org>
> Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 7:00 PM
> Subject: [Zope] Re: newbie -- creating a Product
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> > Max M wrote:
> >> Jonathan skrev:
> >>
> >>>> Well the problem is that Zope 2 was never easy for beginners either.
> >>>> And by now it is starting to get phased out for Zope 3.
> >>>
> >>> This is the first I have heard about Zope 2 being phased out...
> >>
> >> Well .. get used to it then ;-)
> >>
> >> Z2 will keep on being maintained until it is replaced by Z3. The goal
> of
> >> the zope developers is not about keeping Z2 and Z3 running for as long
> >> as possible. Only for as long as necessary.
> >>
> >> Z2 is still being maintained, and will be for a long time. But the
> >> development is all moving in the direction of Z3.
> >>
> >> Read the changelog of the latest Z2 releases. They are practially only
> >> about bugfixes and Z3 integration. Core Zope 2 development has
> >> practically grinded to a halt. New developments are taking place in
> Zope
> >> 3.
> >>
> >>
> >> How is that not an outphasing?
> >
> > I would actually bet on Jim's "door #3" (Zope2 reabsorbing Zope3) as a
> > more likely outcome.  Five years later, the number of production
> > installations of Zope3 compared to Zope2 is statistically insignificant;
> > the use of Zope3 technology within Zope2, however, is growing by leaps
> > and bounds.
>
> +1  I think this is a very realistic/feasible option.  The installed base
> of
> Zope 2 applications is too large for Zope 2 to disappear, and porting Zope
> 2
> applications to Zope 3 is not practical. I am hoping that "Door #3" is the
> winning door!
>
>
>
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michael
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