[Zope] [Zope-dev] Zope 4.0, maybe not such a bad idea...

Chris Withers chris at simplistix.co.uk
Fri Apr 3 12:30:33 EDT 2009

Sascha Welter wrote:
> (Thu, Apr 02, 2009 at 04:11:00PM -0400) Jim Fulton wrote/schrieb/egrapse:
>> I don't think we need A&B.  Maybe just "Zope" and "Zope Framework".
> As long as both use the word "Zope", the confusion will continue.

Well, not quite, I think as long as any *one* of the bits uses the word 
"Zope" on its own, there will be confusion...

> Why don't the Zope 3 people find a different name now, something that
> relates but is not the same?

I've already floated:

Zope 2 the app server -> Zope Classic
Zope 3 the app server -> Zope Advanced

Andreas doesn't like the former and two of the main people I thought 
cared about "Zope 3 the app server" say they don't.

More suggestions please!

How about "Zope 2 the app server" -> Zope TAS 4.0?
Or even Zope Taz 4.0? Then we get a cute mascot :-)

> I understand that the developers would like everybody to move to shiny
> new Zope 3 

I don't think "the developers" actually care what you use ;-)

> for a long time), those Zope 2 people won't move over by mistake. Even
> new people (who Chris so much despises landing on Zope 2) 

That's not actually true, I just think it's evil to lead users down a 
path (Zope 2 the app server on its own) when there are better (Grok, 
Django, hell even Plone) available.



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