[Zope] Fwd: Building a fast, scalable yet small Zope application

Garito garito at sistes.net
Mon Apr 27 19:58:10 EDT 2009

2009/4/27 Tres Seaver <tseaver at palladion.com>

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> Garito wrote:
> > jajajajajajajajajajajajaja
> >
> > Amazing!
> >
> > I don't know how the other list doesn't collapse using reply-to field
> > jajajajajajajajajajajajaja
> I said "religious" because I meant that people have strong opinions
> about which style they prefer, and are not going to change them because
> others argue for the other style.  I didn't say (or imply) that those
> who disagree with me are wrong / evil / stupid.  I *did* say that this
> list is run according to the "no-munging" rules, and that it was a
> deliberate choice, not subject to debate.

Making joke, man, that's the point about religious, isn't it?

> > What wonders me more is how belligerent some in this list are with this
> > question
> I don't see how my reply can be considered belligerent.  Patrick asked
> "why doesn't the list munge 'Reply-To'?", and I replied with a link to
> an explanation, along with a statement that arguing the question would
> not be fruitful.

I mix other conversations with that

> > You cause the problem,
> If you had actually read the link I sent, you would have learned about
> the problems caused by munging 'Reply-To'.  I have participated in
> *lots* of mailing lists since the early nineties:  those which do munge
> the header are more painful, and routinely have "oops, that was supposed
> to be a private reply" messages show up.  The damage from such messages
> is *much* higher than the occasional "forget to CC the list" stuff on
> non-munging lists.  Again, this is *opinion,* shared by lots of mailing
> list maangers / users, but certainly not by all.
> > at least try to don't threaten us with ban us if we
> > send you private messages by mistake
> I don't know what you are talking about here:  I didn't threaten to ban
> anybody.  I generally ask (politely) that people keep their replies
> on-list, and assume that the occasional off-list reply is an honest
> mistake.  I *have* set up filters (in my own mail processing) dropping
> messages from a couple of users who persist in sending me private mail
> after being asked to keep the traffic on the list.

There are people that response very rude to a mistake private message

> > This kind of things are to don't take you seriously, sorry, but this
> cause a
> > very bad impression of the people of this list
> I'm sorry you feel that way.

I respect the opinions, yes, nothing to say about that. I respect you, all
of you, sometimes the email is not a good way to express. I'm a little bit
critic with some of the decisions you make because I think that Zope is the
best operating system (yes, I said operating system) someone could need

I think I need to be as critic because when you decide to make a step far
the vision of Zope I see more work I need to do for myself
I see Zope as a very very smart idea, a univers for my data in a very
similar way as a human brain seems to work and when I see how you invest
your time in another direction I sufer a lot

But, yes, I know that perhaps my vision of Zope is not like yours but it
was, at least when I know Zope the people publish some products with the
same vision

In that point I want to apologize. If I never offend you: sorry, nothing

> Tres.
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