[Zope3-dev] spelling of namespace signifiers

[Casey Duncan]

Here's a crazy idea, how about:

http://server/folder/container;view=index.html

I think this states the intent better because we are interested in the
container object (not a subobject) and we really just want an alternate
view of it which we can specify as a parameter.

An you still get the file extension at the end.

The problem I see with this is how do you then specify a view name? Well
maybe then we can use the :: notation, or additional path segments:

http://server/folder/container;view=someview::index.html

-Casey

On Tue, 2002-06-04 at 17:35, Steve Alexander wrote:
> We started with
> 
>    foo/bar.html;ns=view
> 
> abbreviated that to
> 
>    foo/bar.html;view
> 
> and then changed to
> 
>    foo/view::bar.html
> 
> to appease Opera, and make the filename extension clearly the last part 
> of the URL.
> 
> 
> However, foo/view::bar.html has two problems:
> 
>    1: You have to put a ./ before relative URLs
> 
>       ./view::baz.html
> 
>    2: The colon is conventionally urlencoded to %3A
> 
>       This leads to location bars in browsers looking like
> 
>         http://server.tld/folder/container/view%3A%3Aindex.html
> 
>       Rather than
> 
>         http://server.tld/folder/container/view::index.html
> 
>       Although you can type the latter in, and it will work.
> 
> 
> I propose that a URL namespace signifier should
> 
>    1: Be at the start of a path segment, so as to leave the filename
>       extension intact
> 
>    2: Use chararacters that are not conventionally urlencoded
> 
> The available characters are
> 
>   dash  -
>   dot   .
>   under _
> 
> as determined by running this bit of python:
> 
>  >>> import string
>  >>> import urllib
>  >>> urllib.quote([chr(a) for a in range(32, 127)])
> '%20%21%22%23%24%25%26%27%28%29%2A%2B%2C-./0123456789%3A%3B%3C%3D%3E%3F%40ABCDEF
> GHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ%5B%5C%5D%5E_%60abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz%7B%7C%7D%7E'
>  >>>
> 
> 
> So, what spellings of a namespace signifier would meet my two criteria?
> 
> I'll suggest a few, but first repeat the already rejected ones and the 
> current one:
> 
>    http://server.tld/folder/container/index.html;ns=view
> 
>    http://server.tld/folder/container/index.html;view
> 
>    http://server.tld/folder/container/view::index.html
> 
> New suggestions:
> 
>    http://server.tld/folder/container/view--index.html
> 
>    http://server.tld/folder/container/view..index.html
> 
>    http://server.tld/folder/container/__view__index.html
> 
>    http://server.tld/folder/container/-view-index.html
> 
>    http://server.tld/folder/container/--view--index.html
> 
> 
> Bearing in mind that it will be relatively rare, and generally 
> get-aroundable-if-you-plan-for-it, to have to use this spelling, I'm 
> most in favour of the last spelling: --view--index.html.
> 
> Any comments?
> 
> --
> Steve Alexander
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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