[Zope3-dev] Re: [Zope3-checkins] CVS: Zope3/src/zope/app/browser/services - add_svc_config.pt:1.2 useconfiguration.pt:1.2 useconfiguration.py:1.2 configure.zcml:1.21 service.py:1.7 add_service_1.pt:NONE add_service_2.pt:NONE

[Tres Seaver]

On Tue, 2003-03-04 at 16:11, Shane Hathaway wrote:
> Jeffrey P Shell wrote:
> > On Monday, March 3, 2003, at 06:41  PM, Tres Seaver wrote:
> >>   - What benefit is there in using a seemingly different namespace
> >>     for those directives here?  Wouldn't clarity be better served
> >>     by making 'browser:page' the normative spelling everywhere?  I
> >>     realize that expat has no problem with a different default
> >>     namespace, but humans have to parse ZCML too, and changing
> >>     the default makes them work harder than they should need to.
> >>     Doesn't the same objection obtain here as to the Python,
> >>     'from some_module import *'?
> > 
> > 
> > I agree.  I was just looking at another piece of ZCML in the traversal 
> > package and it took me a while to figure out that all of the elements in 
> > the file were out of a different namespace than I was used to.  As such, 
> > it took a lot longer to grok than I would have liked.  This is the bit 
> > about namespaces and XML that I've hated - while examples of XML with 
> > namespaces use full names and look all nice and neat, too many shortcuts 
> > happen in reality and the whole "human AND machine readable" aspect of 
> > XML goes out the window.  It's not always the case, but (for example) 
> > I've yet to be able to understand any XML generated by a Microsoft product.
> 
> I'd like you to confirm or deny this assertion: the problem isn't in the 
> ability to assign a URI to a different prefix (or no prefix) in 
> different files; the problem is that we're exercising this ability too 
> liberally.  We ought to use the same prefix wherever a given namespace 
> is used, except when we hit a rare clash with another prefix. 
> Keystrokes are secondary to readability.
> 
> IMHO a closer Python analogue is "import sys as python".  That would be 
> awfully confusing, but Python doesn't prevent it except by convention.

Or abbreviating 'self' to 's' to save keystrokes.

Tres.
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