[Zope3-dev] Re: Packaging pre-proposal/notes

[Richard Jones]

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On 17/02/2004, at 3:11 AM, Tres Seaver wrote:
> Anthony Baxter wrote:
>> Sorry, but this stuff is hard. The people who're trying to work on it 
>> have to do this in their spare time - for instance, the current pypi 
>> system.
>
> Note that PyPI invested effort to add Trove metadata, which I would 
> call "nice-to-have", and left out dependencies, which I would call 
> "crucial".  I am not trivializing the effort required to add 
> dependencies, either;  I just don't consider PyPI very useful without 
> them.

This is getting off-topic now, but I think it's important to reiterate 
Anthony's comment. Send Code. Distutils and PyPI are open to further 
development. Some people at some stage had some spare time to put in 
the effort to get something implemented. In my case, I knew I had to 
explicitly narrow the scope of PyPI or I'd never finish, and 
dependencies didn't make the cut. I always intended that they be added 
some time later. Possibly by myself, but most likely by someone else.

Distutils and PyPI are open code.

If you think PyPI's currently "pathetic" or not "very useful", then 
feel free to fix it when you have the spare time. Otherwise, stop the 
name-calling. It just makes those who have put in the effort feel like 
shit.

I'll note that PyPI is actually quite popular though. So I guess it's 
useful to some people.


      Richard
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