[Zope3-dev] [DRAFT] local portlets and perspectives

Jim Fulton jim at zope.com
Mon Aug 29 18:15:44 EDT 2005


Jean-Marc Orliaguet wrote:
> Jim Fulton wrote:
> 
> 
>>Jean-Marc Orliaguet wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Hi!
>>>
>>>Somehow related to the discussion on optimizing catalog queries, I have
>>>been thinking about how to best implement local portlets in cpsskins in
>>>terms of scalability, performance and functionality. The implementation
>>>is heavily dependent on being able to performance effective catalog
>>>queries (it is OK to wait 2 seconds in an ECMS to search 1 million
>>>documents, but it is not OK to have to wait 2 seconds to render a page
>>>containing portlets).
>>>
>>>Here is the proposal:
>>>http://www.z3lab.org/sections/blogs/jean-marc-orliaguet/2005_08_24_local-portlets
>>>
>>>
>>>It is built on the notion of "Perspective" (see the link) and on the
>>>idea of querying the catalog using triadic relations instead of joining
>>>sets of query results based on dyadic predicates (such as with RDF).
>>
>>
>>Well, after our various discussions, I think I understand what this
>>is about.
>>
>>I have the following suggestions:
>>
>>- I think the perspective idea has a lot of merit, however, I'd
>>  like it to be optional.  In particular, I'd like to be able to use
>>  CPS Skins without having to use perspectives.
>>
> 
> 
> that's possible, when you can more you can less (or differently)
> 
> 
>>- You said that cells can be filled with portlets or with slots.
>>  Why not make a slot another kind of portlet?  Then people could
>>  introduce new slot types and innovations without affecting the
>>  rest of CPS Skins.
>>
> 
> 
> yes, this is a possible extension, it is also possible to create a new
> types of objects that fits your needs that are neither slots nor
> portlets but that are contained inside cells.
> 
> why not create a portlet that does what you want? the main formal
> difference between slots and portlets is that slots are inner nodes
> (physically or virtually contain other objects) and that portlets are
> node leaves (must render some data).
> 
> here is the actual base classes:
> http://svn.nuxeo.org/trac/pub/file/z3lab/cpsskins/branches/jmo-perspectives/elements/__init__.py
> 
> this is important for the theme editor.
>
> if the new type of object that you are thinking of work like an inner
> node, then it's a slot otherwise it's a portlet.
> 
> 
> basically if the "slot" that you're thinking about contains portlets
> then it's a sort of slot not a sort of portlet.

Cool. So we can define new slot-like things (for example,
for JSR 168-style slots) and use your slots or not, as we wish.

In particular, we can use CPS skins without being forced to
install triad registries unless we want to use your slots.


>>- Use of the term "portlet" here leads to confusion with JSR 168
>>  portlets, which are different.   I would prefer to see a different
>>  term used for what CPS calls portlets. Absent that, we'll need to
>>  find some modifiers to disambiguate.
>>
>>Jim
>>
> 
> 
> yes, any term, "boxes" are not OK, since they refer to the portlet's
> display (view) with the frame and the decorations but any term that is
> understood by users / developers is ok.

Cool. "Pagelets"?

Jim

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