[Zope3-dev] Re: Heads-up: Zope 2.8, Zope 3 and Five

[Christian Heimes]

Brian Lloyd wrote:
> Hi all -
> 
> At the Paris sprint, a plan was hatched to integrate Five into 
> Zope 2.8, which Jim, Andreas and others responsible for release 
> management have endorsed.
> 
> This will hopefully actually help spur 2.8 to the finish line as 
> well as begin to provide an upgrade path into the future for Zope 2 
> developers.
> 
> What this will essentially mean for is that:
> 
>   - Five will ship in the core distribution with Zope 2.8
> 
>   - A subset of the Zope X3.0 packages will ship in the
>     core distribution

I really *love* to have Five and parts of ZopeX3 in Zope2 but I don't 
like how it is happening. Zope 2.8 is starting to stablize and still 
contains some critical bugs like the incompatibility with old style 
BTrees and you are going to add a heavy bunch of new features to it.

I would prefere this way:

  * Get Zope 2.8.0 out ASAP

  * Branch of Zope 2.9 from 2.8 when 2.8 is in rc phase. 2.9 should be 
the target for ZopeX3 and Five only, no other features so you can get 
2.9 out some month afte 2.8.0.

"Release often, release early and one step after another". You are going 
to make the same ugly and bad mistake we made with Plone 2.0.0. :(

Christian