[Zope3-dev] Re: How does the rotterdam skin work?

[Tonico Strasser]

Jean-Marc Orliaguet schrieb:
> Tonico Strasser wrote:
> 
> 
>>Michael Jansen schrieb:
>>
>>
>>>Hi
>>>
>>>Is there anywhere an explanation how the rotterdam skin works. Some
>>>insight's to how an when which parts are selected?
>>>
>>>How to use and expand it?
>>>
>>>I think i'm making progress in understanding how the parts click
>>>together, but some additional insights would be nice.
>>>
>>>The tutorials i found about skins just told me to create a
>>>template.pt and a dialog_macros.pt and so on. But not why. And when
>>>either one is used.
>>>I think i understand some parts of that now and if there is no such
>>>thing like a explanation of this logics i would try to blame myself
>>>by writing down my findings so far.
>>>
>>>Btw. I think doc/skins/README.txt is a little bit out of date. 
>>
>>
>>I think the Rotterdam skin is doomed. I'd rather create my own skin
>>than try to expand it.
>>
>>Tonico
>>
> 
> 
> Hi!
> the problem is not in the skin itself, but in the model  used to create
> "skins". Filesystem-based skins that depend on ZPT macros are doomed by
> definition, unless they are designed to cover most of the site layouts
> you'll find on the internet (for instance the Plone skin is quite
> generic). But maintaining such a generic skin (HTML + CSS) is a lot of work.

Yes, and the ZMI-"design" is also broken IMHO. Actions below tabs is not 
intuitive, the navtree does not feel good etc. I find the classic ZMI 
much better in this respect.

I guess I'm confusing the ZMI with a Skin definition :)

Memo: Management Interface != Skin <=> Skin != Management Interface

> Also there is a problem with the target audience: ZPT programmers are
> not always good graphic designers and UI/ graphic designers are not
> always good at ZPT / python.

I agree.

Tonico