[Zope3-dev] Re: XML header and TAL interpretor

[Tonico Strasser]

Philipp von Weitershausen schrieb:
> Tonico Strasser wrote:
> 
>>Philipp von Weitershausen schrieb:
>>
>>
>>>I'm not so sure that this is such a good thing. ZPT seems to enforce
>>>*guidelines* that not everyone might want to follow (e.g. if I want to
>>>output my XHTML as c14n or something similar). For me, ZPT's HTML mode
>>>just does too many things, most of which won't hurt to be the template
>>>author's responsibility. I definitely consider <br/> vs. <br /> one of
>>>them.
>>
>>You have different use cases, obviously. For me, HTML mode is a good
>>thing including <br/> to <br /> conversion. (I don't like to write <br
>>/> all the time, all our web pages are served as text/html for non-XHTML
>>browsers like MSIE, and we follow the compatibility guidelines from the
>>XHTML standard).
> 
> 
> That's good and I agree that there should be tools that aid you in
> making your HTML work better with the guidelines. But if that means
> introducing weird obstacles for ZPT authors, I don't think these tools
> should be part of the ZPT renderer. If you don't want to write <br />
> all the time, use a "guideline compliance maker" tool (maybe xmllint
> will do) and feed your template to it... Templating XML is part of ZPT's
> job; I question if it should do much more at this point.

But that's why ZTPs have HTML mode, no?

>>I agree that it should be possible to trigger XML mode without the
>>prolog for use cases like yours.
> 
> 
> That won't help because HTML mode macros and XML mode macros aren't
> compatible. I really would like to see XML be the default, including
> Zope 3's skin macros.

Yes, would also like to see this.

Tonico