[Zope3-dev] Re: Proposed widget/schema work for the Rivah sprint (Thursday and Friday this week)

[Jim Fulton]

Gary Poster wrote:
> 
> On Sep 7, 2005, at 9:13 AM, Florent Guillaume wrote:
> 
>> Jim Fulton wrote:
>>
>>> I think that sources are different than initial value.  I really  don't
>>> see any role that "initial value" has in an object specification.
>>> A schema is a specification for an object that provides the schema.
>>> An initial value doesn't constrain or specify the object.  If  anything,
>>> it constrains applications that create the object, but in a rather  
>>> unclear
>>> way.
>>>
>>
>> But a schema is useful for more than "specifying the values of an  
>> object". All notions of schemas I've encountered (CPS Schemas, XML  
>> Schemas, Archetypes) use the schema to constrain or validate an  
>> existing object, yes, but also to create new objects from scratch  
>> (even in the absence of widgets). Being able to specify initial  
>> values is quite important there.
> 
> 
> Hi Florent.  FWIW, after I argued with Jim about this a bit more  
> verbally last week, he told me that he's willing to keep 'default'  
> around for now, and we'll argue about this again later (maybe when  the 
> schema field redesign happens).
> 
> He doesn't believe that 'initial' is a better word than 'default'.   

No, it is better.

> Maybe he just is saying that it is not better enough to warrant the  
> change.

Well, I don't want to add legitimacy to it by giving it a better
name. :)

Jim

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