[Zope3-dev] Re: [SpringCleaning07]

[Martijn Faassen]

Stephan Richter wrote:
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> Overall, I think the first step would be to agree on a common set of UI 
> patterns.

 From what you say below I don't think we'll be able to do that very 
soon. :) I think we should agree to disagree for now and just see 
whoever gets to an admin UI first (or best).

> I know that our UI patterns are very formal and an overhead, if you 
> do both, Python view code and templating, but we also have achieved some very 
> old design goals.

I am not capable of weighing the benefit of reaching those old design 
goals compared to the cost of the formality and overhead, but the words 
"formality and overhead" worry me a lot, especially when they come from 
you, as you seem to be more capable of dealing with such overhead than I 
am. :) I am of the strong opinion that Zope 3 would do well to move 
*away* from development overhead for a while. This is what we're trying 
to do with Grok.

By the way, I'm quite interested in seeing whether we can integrate 
Genshi into Zope 3 and Grok as a templating language. It has some 
interesting ways to do things, and there's quite a bit of momentum 
behind it.

Regards,

Martijn