[Zope3-dev] Re: The elevator speech for Zope 3

[David Pratt]

Hi Uwe. I have been thinking of something similar and posted on the list 
a couple of weeks back:

http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope3-dev/2007-September/023653.html

I want the zcml to be generated with a switch on zc.buildout so all 
configuration is auto generated. Currently site.zcml is done this way 
and I want to extend this to the class level. Recipe's would be produced 
  to handle different types of configuration by providing the decorator 
methods.

I'm hoping to use decorators exclusively on the classes to do this so 
there would be no need to modify the code in the classes themselves to 
accomplish the configuration.  Further, classes without this decoration 
would be skipped by the process allowing this approach to be 
incorporated into your code gradually. I want to be able to see and 
verify the zcml produced and have the same control over it that I have now.

The advantage of having it in buildout is that it becomes integrated 
into the development of the application, which is by nature just the 
configuration glue for your packages.

Uwe, is there a chance your package can be zpl'd since I believe bebop 
is gpl and this is fairly low level code that could be a great plus for 
general z3 development. At the very least I'd like a zpl'd package to 
handle configuration this way or to borrow from your efforts to move 
forward with this idea.

Regards,
David

Uwe Oestermeier wrote:
> Oliver Marx <om at improva.dk> writes:
>> I have looked at Grok. I love the ideas. But it feels like its a little 
>> too much convention over configuration. I do not hate zcml. I hate to 
>> write zcml. If there was a way to auto generate zcml and way to 
>> overwrite that zcml when needed - then I would be a happy man. 
> 
> Have a look at bebop.protocol  in PyPI. It's still a preminary version but
> it does exactly what you want.
> 
> Regards,
> Uwe
> 
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