[Zope3-Users] Re: ZCML, practicality, purity (was "Excellent perspective...")

Chris McDonough chrism at plope.com
Thu Dec 22 10:53:36 EST 2005

I assume this means you've given up on the idea of creating a GUI  
ZCML configuration tool, the?

On Dec 22, 2005, at 10:44 AM, Shane Hathaway wrote:

> Wade Leftwich wrote:
>> If ZCML (a/k/a The Right Way) is keeping fairly smart developers from
>> trying Z3, then maybe we need an alternative (a/k/a What People Think
>> They Want).
> Are you sure ZCML is The Right Way?  I know its purpose (since I  
> helped invent Zope 3): to combine configurations by multiple  
> developers without imposing a particular workflow.  However, I  
> maintain that Python code could do the job better.  The Python code  
> I have in mind is not the same as Jeffrey's examples.  I'll  
> elaborate if there's interest.
>> Would it make sense to publish a recommended way to configure Z3 apps
>> completely via Python? Just for people who can't get past ZCML?
> Well, I wouldn't say the people I know "can't get past" ZCML.   
> They're smart, and learning an XML schema is not a big effort.   
> However, for someone coming from Java frameworks, yet another XML  
> format is a big mark against Zope, making RoR and other frameworks  
> much more attractive.  It's also a mark against Python, since it  
> seems to indicate that Python is too weak to implement a  
> configuration mini-language.
> Shane
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