[Zope3-Users] zalchemy integration

David Pratt fairwinds at eastlink.ca
Sun Aug 13 11:22:45 EDT 2006

Hi Roger. This is really interesting. It would be good to see a very 
small demo of these nice packages you have been contributing - something 
  that would put together the minimal layer, menu package, and a few 
basic viewlets just to give folks a basic idea of what can be acheived 
'minimally'. Also a clearer understanding of where to use trusted over 
the basic layer. I would seem that this is the road to some very dynamic 
skinning flexibility.

The one thing perhaps missing from this is a mechanism for storing and 
manipulating viewlets and selecting a template on a container. Perhaps a 
template manager is also needed. What I am missing from Zope2 is the 
simple ability to drop an index.html or different template into a folder 
as a simple way to make folder views that are based on site context. 
Sites can be pretty terrible otherwise if they are not sensitive to 
where you are and display the same organization of viewlets. If 
viewlets/viewlet managers and a template can be maintained as 
annotations on a container and the weighting of viewlet managers 
manipulated through a form instead of zcml then we'd be cooking with 
gas. :-)


Roger Ineichen wrote:
> Hi Jeff
> [...]
>> With the ZMI, I end up asking "is this the UI I want to 
>> deliver to my customer?" And the answer is rarely "yes!" I 
>> feel like I have to arm wrestle a lot more to turn off and 
>> hide features. I still don't really understand how the 'Add' 
>> menu works.
> Did you see the layer package I commited to the z3c repos the 
> last days?
> There is now a minimal layer which allows you to build 
> very easy a own administration interface.
>> This isn't a criticism of the ZMI skin. It just hasn't been a 
>> fit for any of our customers or applications, which makes it 
>> very hard to support. Fortunately, it's fairly easy to do 
>> away with. But it also feels very hard to migrate away from 
>> if that's where ones initial work is.
> We really should use the Boston skin which offers much more
> flexibility for such customized ZMI's because of it's
> viewlet/manager concept and drop the Rotterdam skin.
> [...]
>> Having developed on and for Zope for nearly ten years now, I 
>> can say that there is no such thing as "traditional zope 
>> development" :).
>> There are a lot of ways to get things done.
> ;-)
> Regards
> Roger Ineichen
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