[Zope3-Users] Re: NTLM credential plugin
Philipp von Weitershausen
philipp at weitershausen.de
Wed Sep 13 09:37:10 EDT 2006
Gary Poster wrote:
> On Sep 13, 2006, at 2:30 AM, Philipp von Weitershausen wrote:
>> Simon Hang wrote:
>>> I'm thinging to write a NTLM credential plugin for zope3. But as I
>>> know, ntlm use 4-way handshake procedure, that means it needs two
>>> round-trips between server(zope3) and client(browser).
>>> When I look in the credential plugins, it has challenge mothed. But
>>> seems it is only design for 1 round-trip protocol. It can issue one
>>> challenge, and return to parent script.
>> I don't see how the PAU only allows one "round-trip".
> AIUI (I just looked up NTLM last night out of curiosity: see
> http://www.innovation.ch/personal/ronald/ntlm.html), the problem is that
> the 4 way handshake has to happen *within a single connection*.
Ack. Ok, I didn't know that. Frankly, I personally don't care much about
> Apparently MS abuses HTTP to perform this. Implementing it in pluggable
> auth made me scratch my head a bit, so I didn't reply. You would need
> to slurp the request, then push back to the response, then slurp the
> same request again, then push back to the response, then slurp one more
> time, and finally reply with the real request. Describing the problem
> to Benji, he mentioned WSGI--that does seem like the only way I can
> imagine this working, and that would be tricky enough, especially if you
> needed to reach into Zope for the managed credentials. Once the WSGI
> plugin did its magic, it would need to put something in the WSGI request
> that a pluggable auth plugin was willing to accept as authentication.
> On the bright side, if you did this with WSGI you might be able to offer
> this as a generic Python WSGI NTLM tool that required only minimal
> integration with the back end app server.
Yes, WSGI definitely sounds like a good place to put this then. Perhaps
the WSGI middleware could "fake" a client that uses a more standard
authentication system (e.g. Basic Auth) to the WSGI application, that
way it'd be transparent to the WSGI application. Not sure if that's
possible with NTLM, though.
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