[Zope3-Users] Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 3.4.0 candidate 1 Released

David Pratt fairwinds at eastlink.ca
Fri Feb 1 10:58:37 EST 2008

Hi Martijn. I am familiar with grok and the fun and welcoming community 
you have created. With the perspective I have suggested, releases are 
only sets with different names giving meaning to each set for developer 

As a project, grok is currently pinning eggs but can also provide a kgs 
for the set known as grok. The full story of zope is about the assembly 
of packages into projects. It need not be only one thing or the other 
which is the point. It is really up to individual developers to 
determine their flavor of zope and what it means to their own projects 
and style of development.

My thinking though is that we can create a more cohesive community if 
the code base were all known as 'zope' and developers are all working 
from the superset of zope (which is in essence just the code base of 
packages we all use).


Martijn Faassen wrote:
> Hey,.
> On Feb 1, 2008 4:09 PM, David Pratt <fairwinds at eastlink.ca> wrote:
> [snip]
>> It might be nice for the marketing of zope to give each set of eggs a
>> nice name. Just using familiar mozilla names as an illustration, see how
>> nice zope-thunderbird or zope-firefox look. So do away with the kgs in
>> the name and create a brand where zope 2 doesn't look like the lesser
>> version of zope and zope3 isn't a library. They are only sets of the
>> packages we generally refer to as zope :-)
> There is this little community project called "Grok" which among other
> things aims at better marketing of Zope 3 technologies:
> http://grok.zope.org
> We've been at it for over a year. Now with all new website!
> I realize that Grok isn't to the tastes of everybody in this
> community. They may wish to market non-Grok Zope 3 better. My
> suggestion is for them to contribute to the Zope website project:
> http://www.openplans.org/projects/zorg-redux
> (appears down at the moment, but I think that this is the correct URL)
> Regards,
> Martijn

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