[Zope-marketing] zope.org - Who Uses This Thing Called Zope?

[alan runyan]

I like Carlos's list.  I think the next step is for someone to come up with
a WEB FORM where we can ask community members to post stuff into it.  This
being questions from Carlos's last message.

You can get hit counts and downloads - http://www.zope.org/About
You can get members subscribed to mailing list - http://lists.zope.org/

as far as having a magazine.  We can't even keep the frontpage of ZOPE.ORG
up-to-date.
Its exceedingly difficult to get content about ZOPE because.. well.. most
ZOPE programmers
are professional.  And dont have many cycles to devote to extra-circular
activities.   Writing articles are a *huge* pain in the ass.

I think we should focus on getting case studies together.  Get the web form
up.  Notify people of form and ask them to please fill it out.  Gather
results (prod other whos havent filled out form).  Lets have a goal of 5
case studies.  Does this sound reasonable?

~runyaga

----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Robertson" <srobertson@codeit.com>
To: "Carlos de la Guardia" <cguardia@aldeasystems.com>;
<zope-marketing@zope.org>
Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 2:50 PM
Subject: RE: [Zope-marketing] zope.org - Who Uses This Thing Called Zope?


> It would also be beneficial to come up with some number that represents
the
> number of developers that are using Zope.
>
> This question comes up as frequently, if not more for us than whose using
> it. Actually that's a fib. It's easier for us to wave off the "why isn't
> everyone using it?" argument than it is to wave off the "How many zope
> developers are there and how easy is it to hire them?"
>
> I know that this is more difficult than estimating the number of
developers
> for closed software, but maybe we can extrapolate these numbers by looking
> at the:
>
> * number of hits at Zope.org
> * number of downloads
> * number of members
> * number of people attending training sessions and conferences
>
> The exact value isn't to important so much as having *a number* and
showing
> that it's growing from month to month.
>
> Another goal I think this group should strive for is convincing some
> publishing house to have a Zope Magazine or at least a regular column.
It's
> hard to compete against Cold Fusion and Websphere when you can go to
Barnes
> and Noble and see them represented in the magazine rack.
>
>
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: zope-marketing-admin@zope.org
> > [mailto:zope-marketing-admin@zope.org]On Behalf Of Carlos de la Guardia
> > Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 2:53 PM
> > To: zope-marketing@zope.org
> > Subject: Re: [Zope-marketing] zope.org - Who Uses This Thing Called
> > Zope?
> >
> >
> > I agree that this case study idea is well worth our efforts. I
> > think for best
> > results we should come up with a standard format for the case studies.
> >
> > Maybe something like this:
> >
> > * Client
> > * Challenge
> > * Solution
> > * Which technologies other than Zope were considered and why Zope won
out
> > * Business benefits
> > * Software and hardware components
> > * Estimated traffic volume
> >
> > Carlos de la Guardia
> > Aldea Systems
> >
> > On Mon, 8 Apr 2002 00:05:32 -0500 alan runyan <runyaga@runyaga.com>
wrote:
> >
> > > There are loads of commerical products using ZOPE, as well as big
named
> > > clients.
> > > Could we get people to pair up with companies and get some fresh case
> > > studies on
> > > http://www.zope.org/Resources/CaseStudies  and have this linked off
the
> > > frontpage?
> > >
> > > * bruce-eckel likes ZOPE and I'm sure if someone sent him a few
> > > questions he
> > > would answer. or basically write a case study himself.  just needs
> > > prodding.
> > > http://mindview.com
> > >
> > > * ensim - is the largest commercial success that I know of using ZOPE.
> > > http://www.ensim.com/
> > >
> > > * NATO - the guy w/ the demo.. that needs to be gotten a hold of.
just
> > > need
> > > someone to hassle him.  if not the demo then at least a minor
> > case study.
> > >
> > > * french people havae done some wonderful stuff.  and I think they
> > > already
> > > have case studies almost available.
> > > at least quotes.
> > >
> > > * dot.kde.org and gnotices.gnome.org could be done up in one.
> > >
> > > * there is a huge Italian site running ZOPE, forgot name
> > >
> > > * amphora (sp?) or some other content mgmt like system written ontop
of
> > > ZOPE
> > >
> > > * bizarshop
> > >
> > > the last two, I'm sure would do their own case studies as they are
> > > corporate
> > > entities and any promotion of their work is free marketing for them.
> > >
> > > how about a query to the community asking if they want to participate.
> > > Steps Involved:
> > > * pick a Case Study to fulfill
> > > * we can come up with questions for them to personally ask
> > > * feed the raw results back to the marketing list
> > > * someoned edit them.. and put them up on zope.org
> > > * moving 'Who uses ZOPE' to the frontpage of zope.org
> > >
> > > ~runyaga
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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