[Zope] call for a new list -- did we ever come to a conclusion?

Robert Rottermann robert@redcor.ch
Mon, 22 Oct 2001 14:13:01 +0200


Sorry to contradict you,

the rules are for everyone. Also for the ones dealing with an offender.

When you have been offending traffic rules the last time (parking your car
inappropriately maybe)  you would have been rather unhappy when you where
treated as an outlaw by the rest of the traffic members.

This of course assume that you are like me: just barely perfect.. and
therefore able to make mistakes

Robert

----- Original Message -----
From: "Philip Kilner" <phil@xfr.co.uk>
To: "Frank Tegtmeyer" <fte@lightwerk.com>; <zope@zope.org>
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 1:04 PM
Subject: Re: [Zope] call for a new list -- did we ever come to a conclusion?


> Hi Frank,
>
> In article <ufk7xo2c5c.fsf@westkapp.wb.lightwerk.com>, Frank Tegtmeyer
wrote:
> > > attacks.  I agree w/ webmaven that he should post these emails
publicly so
> > > we could see the offenders.
> >
> > Personal mails should never be made public, even if they are
> > attacks. That's a very basic rule of netiquette.
> >
>
> If someone has taken a private email address from a public posting and
used it to
> abuse the private individual concerned, they have already put themselves
outside
> the rules - and hence in my view the protection - of "netiquette". In
doing so, they
> are merely hiding behind the "privacy" of email as opposed to a mailing
list in
> order to perpetrate their abuse.
>
> > > We shoulndt tolerate this in our community.
> >
> > You will have to live with such things in every large group of
> > individuals. There is nothing you can do about it.
> >
>
> I don't accept this kind of behaviour in /any/ group of people. I don't
think anybody
> else should have to either. It upsets me to think that anyone should feel
that they
> have to unsubscribe to avoid abuse, and it diminishes us all to let it
happen.
>
> However, the judgement must be Andrews in this case.
>
> Regards
>
> PhilK
>
> Mon, 22 Oct 2001 11:49 +0100
>
> When your friend speaks his mind you fear not
>         the "nay" in your own mind, nor do you withhold the "ay".
> And when he is silent your heart ceases not to listen to his heart;
>
>                 - from The Prophet, by Kahlil Gibran
>
>
>
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