[Zope3-dev] DISCUSS: Designing for debuggability

[Shane Hathaway]

Paul Everitt wrote:

> Shane Hathaway wrote:
>> We could use some ideas for a debugging UI.  The big question is 
>> whether the debugger would be driven by the browser or by a Zope IDE.
> 
> *If* I wasn't on thin ice, here's the next steps that I'd propose.


Whew, too many questions.  I'll answer a couple. :-)

>   o To wrap all this into end-to-end scenarios, what are five 
> particularly egregious debugging situations to analyze, based on 
> real-world experience over the last year?


I perceive a need for a pdb-like capability with a friendly UI and the 
ability to debug higher level languages like DTML and page templates. 
I've often needed to step into code without having to memorize

> To address your point, a Python prompt combined with ZEO might be the 
> ultimate debugging interface -- provided that you can easily step into 
> and recreate a problem that just happened.


We already have that, don't we?  "import pdb; pdb.set_trace()".

Shane