[Zope3-dev] IMPORTANT RFS: Through the Web Site Development

[Jim Fulton]

Luciano Ramalho wrote:
> 
> On segunda-feira, jan 13, 2003, at 15:33 America/Sao_Paulo, Jim Fulton 
> wrote:
> 
>> That is a wild guess. I wish I knew what the real numbers were.
>>
> 
>  From the wild-guess-dept:
> 
> I know personally about 50 people who make a living working with Zope 
> full time in Brazil. No more than 5 of them have ever written a Zope 
> product of their own. Many have tried to use ZClasses, with varying 
> degrees of success.

I wonder what percentage tries ZClasses, and, of those, what percentage
was successful.

> I also know a much larger community who uses Zope, but not exclusively, 
> and none of them would ever take the time to learn enough Zope to 
> develop a product,

Do you think that the software development process I described
in  is equivalent

http://dev.zope.org/Zope3/ThroughTheWebSiteDevelopment

is equivalent to developing products?

I would expect that it is much closer to developing ZClasses,
bit without the warts.

 > although some have played with ZClasses. All of them
> have ASP or PHP experience that they can use with Zope. For them, ZPT is 
> worse than DTML, because ZPT forces them to use more Python,  and they
> still think that learning Python is difficult or not worthwhile,

So they learn DTML instead? I'm amazed.

 > and
> they have the terrible habit of embedding business logic in their pages.
> 
> We have a mission to bring them into the light, but first we must go and 
> talk to them. Zope3-dev is not the right forum.

Don't you think these people will just use scripts and pages in content space?

Jim


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