[Zope3-dev] Re: Can we provide a Zope3 Collective?

[Jim Fulton]

Martijn Faassen wrote:
> Jim Fulton wrote:
> 
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> I agree with what Philipp said. That is not so much a reflection on 
> behavior, but a reflection on perspective and image. This also counts in 
> the open source world.
> 
> For instance, if I check something into cvs.infrae.com or codespeak.net 
> SVN has a vast difference in image, even though both packages may be 
> licensed the same way.

We are talking about zope.org, *not* zope.com.

...

> I agree that the zope.org repository has significant benefits. It also 
> has drawbacks. A separate repositority has other drawbacks and strengths 

Yup.  I just think there should be some sanity in considering the drawbacks.

> -- strengths that include a lower barrier to entry and a neutral 
> position.

It's the neutral position bit I have a major beef with.

 > Just by being *different* in its strengths and drawbacks is
> helpful by itself, as this may feed some projects into existence that 
> might otherwise not happen.
> 
> I think that the Zope 3 community will be stronger with this second 
> repository. It's a significant sign of strength of the community itself 
> to have people develop open source software *for* Zope 3 that can not in 
> any way be construed to be a *part* of Zope 3.
> 
> This is what we see in the Zope 2 community; a plethora of repositories. 
> The different possibly incompatible licenses and state of 
> maintainability is a drawback, yes, but it's also a strength -- a 
> strength in diversity.

Including the diversity of products that are broken by new versions
of Zope, in part, because they aren't adequately tested against new versions.

Jim

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