[Zope3-dev] Re: Siesia: A new UI for Zope 3

[Tonico Strasser]

Stephan Richter wrote:

> Sorry, I guess I over-summarized. But I distinctly remember Paul criticizing 
> this approach about a year ago. Skins +Layers use a hierarchical tree or 
> inheritance, but most other UI generation system use a pipe. This makes it 
> really hard for designers to use well-established patterns.

Hi, where can I find doucemtation or articles about this 
well-established patterns. Do you mean the Cocoon framework?

> As stated above, the problem is that designers cannot use established 
> transformation patterns and common practices in Zope, since its rendering 
> mechanisms do not support them. In the mail I tried to sketch out a solution 
> for implementing the transformation pipeline, so designers could use the 
> piped transformations pattern.

I might be missing something, I heard a lot about XSLT (and find it 
pretty cool), but I think it's far away from common in Web/UI design 
today. What are this common practices, who is using this?

I'm asking because I'm very interested in UI design. IMHO, the 
bottleneck is not the server technology it's the clients software. If 
browsers would follow the specs, I could create sophisticated UI's with 
simple template logic. And in two years we'll (hopefully) see new 
technologies on the client side like XForms, XUL or XAML.

Tonico