[Zope3-dev] The bug fixing problem

[Patrick Gerken]

On 7/7/06, Julien Anguenot <ja at nuxeo.com> wrote:
> Jim Fulton wrote:
> >
> > On Jul 7, 2006, at 9:45 AM, Julien Anguenot wrote:
> >
> >> Hi there,
> >>
> >> Jim Fulton wrote:
> >>> On Jul 5, 2006, at 5:46 AM, Christian Theune wrote:
> >>>> I'm sitting at EuroPython right now, and a small discussion came up,
> >>>> trying to find out why nobody seems motivated to fix bugs came up.
> >>>>
> >>>> Martijn Fassen noted that the tools we use should be better (I agree
> >>>> on that, especially making it easy to find which bugs need to be
> >>>> urgently fixed for the next release). Obviously that isn't a pure
> >>>> problem on it's own.
> >>>
> >>> There are certainly many problems with the current bug trackers,
> >>> which were written several years ago.  Finding out quickly which bugs
> >>> need to be fixed for the next release isn't one of them. (Although
> >>> discovering how to do this isn't obvious and could be trivially improved
> >>> through configuration.)
> >>
> >> I tried to raise the discussion last year about this topic :
> >> http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope3-dev/2005-May/014588.html
> >>
> >> ... but didn't go far.
> >> I believe the bug tracker is certainly the most important tool for a
> >> project like Zope3.
> >>
> >
> > I wasn't suggesting that we couldn't use a better bug tracker.
>
> I understood your point. I just wanted to emphasis the fact that the bug
> tracker tool is more than critical.

As a non committer I would like to note that it was easy for me to
search if somebody already submitted a bug I found, and submit a new
patch, it was also trivial to add the for the bugfix and the test. The
only thing which IS still not easy is to find a way to see that patch
appear in Zope itself.
I marked the bug as bug + bugfix but nobody cares. That is much more
discouraging than what I can not do nice wiki links to in my bugreport
other bugtracker items or svn sources like it is possible in trac
itself.

Patrick