[Zope3-dev] Zope 3 as a reliable platform?!?

Jim Fulton jim at zope.com
Wed Sep 6 09:52:33 EDT 2006


On Sep 6, 2006, at 6:41 AM, Chris Withers wrote:

> Jim Fulton wrote:
...
>> Zope 3 was declared ready for production because people were using  
>> it in production,
>
> A mistake perhaps?

I don't think so.

...

>> People who used Zope 3 should have been made aware of these  
>> issues. Maybe there weren't.
>
> They were, but there are benefits to Zope 3 ;-)

Right. Caveat emptor.


>> the messages, but we certainly tried to be informative.  We've  
>> also tried very hard to be backward compatible.
>
> bzzt.. nope, backwards compatible for a period of time, which is  
> NOT backwards compatability in my mind.

Woop woop woop. Ding ding. Moo moo.

That;s your mind. I disagree,


> I can still use 8.3 filenames in Windows XP if I really want.  
> That's backwards compatability and is about the only thing MS ever  
> did right...

Uh huh.

>> I do think the rate of change needs to decrease and I'm pretty  
>> confident it will.  The local-registration changes in 3.3 are the  
>> biggest remaining API/Architectural change I'm aware of.
>
> Yay! I can only hope. It would certainly help Zope 3 become a much  
> more easily adoptable framework imho.
>
>> I think that the biggest change ahead will be in redoing the  
>> packaging to:
>> - be egg friendly, if not egg-centric,
>
> But that should change anything w.r.t. actual use, right?

It will likely cause some more things to move out of zope.app.

  It will probably have huge impacts on installation.

Jim

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