[Zope3-dev] Initial thoughts on the Zope3 security framework

[Jim Fulton]

Guido van Rossum wrote:
> 
> > > Or you can make it so abstract that nobody understands it.
> >
> > I don't think the tutorial is abstract.
> 
> I didn't mean the tutorial.  I meant the Wiki.

There is a corpus of information, including both the
wiki and the tutorial.

> > Understanding requires effort of two parties.
> 
> Jim, don't try to insinuate that I'm not putting in an effort.  I
> spent countless hours this weekend touring the Wiki and reading the
> email thread (which you apparently have decided to ignore :-( ).

I didn't ignore the email thread at all. At some point, email
ceases to be a useful medium for discussion. The thread
was huge. I could have responded to almost every message.
People would have responded to my responses and there would
have been a huge mess. I simply tried to focus this discussion
of terms back on the glossary.

I updated the glossary, trying to address concerns raised in email
prior to asking people to focus there.

> > I'm gonna keep working hard to communicate.
> 
> Me too.  I hope to add more comments to the Wiki indicating my
> understanding or lack thereof.
> 
> > People are going to have to be willing to connect a few dots if they
> > are going to contribute at this early stage in the development.
> 
> And if you want feedback, you're gonna have to read the feedback too.

As I have been.

Jim

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