[Zope3-dev] Re: Zope 3 learning curve?

[Casey Duncan]

On Monday 28 January 2002 10:28 am, Chris Withers allegedly wrote:
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> > I disagree. I am very interested in helping to develop Zope 3, since I
> > can put in some of my personal experiences, such as making Formulator one
> > of the core components.
>
> Yes, but this illustrates the problem quite well. Not everyone would like
> Formulator in the core. Now, if the development is chucked out to the
> community, all manner of crap might end up in the 'core' If that does
> happen, then Zope suddenly stops being attractive and people migrate to
> other platforms.

IMHO The following criteria could be used to see if something should be in 
the core (not exhaustive and somewhat subjective):

1. It is necessary for other core components to work (Duh!)
2. It allows enhancement of other core components in a desireable way.
3. It is useful to nearly all Zope applications.

IMHO Formulator satisfies 2 and 3. The core "component" I refer to is the 
ZMI. I would vote for 3 since nearly all web applications need forms.

That said, Formulator as currently developed should not be in the core. 
Obviously we are speaking of the concepts of formulator implemented via the 
"new religion"

> However, if the component architecture does come together, then people will
> eb able to pick and choose which components to use much mroe easily. This,
> I'm hoping, will mean they can swallow as much or as little of Zope as they
> like and just pick and use the bits which they find useful.

Yes, but if another core component uses it (such as the ZMI), it would need 
to be in the distro. Things that are currently in the Products directory in 
the distro would probably fit that model,.

> > I disagree. I am now already devoted to Zope for 2.5 years. And with
> > every minute I spend coding for or within it, I get more involved. If the
> > Zope community would only consist of cowboys, we would be in bad shape.
>
> Well, Stephan, you are an exception there ;-) I didn't necessarily mean
> cowboys in a bad sense. I class myself as a cowboy; I only have time to
> contribute it short chunks if they help the business I'm doing...

Y'all come back now y'hear!

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