[Zope3-dev] plus plus at at under under at at under under at at plus slash

[Jeffrey P Shell]

On Monday, July 28, 2003, at 11:01  PM, Peter Simmons wrote:

>> I still don't understand all the bloody ++'s.  Is there some 
>> different  behavior between ending something  with ``++$1`` and 
>> ``++/$1``?  Or is  that between @@foo and @@/foo ?
>
>
> @@ means view (Jim explained it looks like a pair of eyes :-), so 
> @@foo is the foo view on some object, I don't think @@/foo would 
> really work but maybe it does, the default view or something, anyone 
> know better
>
> ++ is used to define new contexts I think, like ++skin++Melbourne or 
> ++etc++Services the part after the ++skin++ is the skin name and after 
> ++etc++ the thing inside the etc object. Someone please help that's a 
> terrible explaination.
>
> Anyway the idea is that these notations make things more explict. Like 
> everything though the more you are saying the more you need to 
> understand.

Explicit is good.  I understand the reasons behind all this, and I 
understand why the punctuation chosen was chosen.  But I hope that it 
doesn't put a serious nail in the coffin of Zope's "pretty URL" scheme. 
  Seeing the ++skin++tracker/tracker on zope3.org makes me wince every 
time.  Isn't there some way to make that automatic, even within 
elements within elements of a site?

For a lot of the applications we deploy, we have administration screens 
that are usually in a path called 'admin'.  They often live in or near 
the same space as the public site, but has their own look and feel.  I 
still want to tell my customers to go to 'www.example.com/admin/' 
instead of 'www.example.com/++skin++admin/admin/'.

As a developer, I can get used to typing these things.  I'd prefer that 
my users not have to type them or even see them in their general usage 
of a site - whether they're using the public side, or our 
administration/management interfaces.  So, what I'm hoping for (and I'm 
sure this is doable already) is that one can say "when you traverse 
through here, the skin order changes to ``showcaseadmin ticketadmin etc 
etc``.


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