[Zope3-dev] Complexness of Zope3

[sathya]

>In my python product I only use very little of the available
>tools. I don't use: acquisition, DTML, ZPT, ZClasses ...


If you dont use acquisition,DTML,ZPT and you are trying to build a web 
application using zope, it seems like you are  not really building 
anything that needs the object publishing power of zope.  

Heres a quote from Greg ward "If the web designers at your organization 
are keen to try out a real programming language, then Quixote might 
provide them with a good introduction to Python; but anyone who doesn't 
understand what "import a module" or "call a function" means isn't going 
to get very far with Quixote. Similarly, anyone who expects to use a 
dedicated, WYSIWYG HTML editor for creating web pages will be left out."

This is one example where zope with all the machinery it comes with 
accomodates web designers and this is a must  in any enterprise intranet 
solution or content management system. I cannot put quixote in front of 
the content editor.

Most  experienced professionals are capable of comprehending the problem 
and identify the right tool to use to solve it. Ultimately it boils down 
to that. I am not really trying to  belittle  quixote vs zope but 
 rather to say that both have their place.
Zope3 is not complicated , the point is  it takes some effort to learn 
any new  framework and i dont think once has to expend any more effort 
learning zope3 as compared to beans running wild  all over the 
enterprise J2EE  or quixote or webware or whatever.

The good thing is  theres a choice  and more power to the small man..... 
 ! No downsides to that

sathya
:)




Thomas Guettler wrote:

>Hi!
>
>I think there are more people like me who think that zope is too
>big. 
>
>I only use python, ZODB and ZCatalog, usermanagement and sessions.
>
>Zope3, I though would clean up a lot of things. But when you look at
>the documentation, zope3 seems very complex.
>
>Since the problems you want to solve with tools like zope3 are complex
>you need some easy to use tools. You can't teach your colleagues the
>tools for several weeks, before starting with the project.
>
>Aren't you afraid that many people will switch to e.g Quixote+ZODB
>because Zope is to complex?
>
> thomas
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