[Zope3-dev] Re: Mini proposal: simpify presentation-lookup api

[Philipp von Weitershausen]

Jim Fulton wrote:
>> In the docstrings, you talk about presentations, but the methods are 
>> called {get|query}Presenter. I think they should be called 
>> {get|query}Presentation. That's also inline with the service being 
>> called Presentation Service, the service for Adapters being called 
>> Adapter Service, etc. etc.
> 
> Presenter is shorter. I'm open to even shorter names. :)

I distinctly remember you ruling explicitness in names (even if it means 
long names) over short names. This is a case where I agree with this 
policy of yours :)

> We can rename the service.

-1

A presentation is clear. A presentator is not. The endswith('or') 
implies an actor, a (real) person doing something.

>> That's good, since I guess we'll have BrowserViews etc. provide 
>> IPublished...
> 
> Well, "pages" will present IPublished. I'm working on a separate
> proposal for that. :)

Right. Good!

>>> So, for example, a call like:
>>>
>>>   view = zapi.getView(ob, name, request)
>>>
>>> will become:
>>>
>>>   view = zapi.getPresenter((ob, request), someinterface, name)
>>
>> How will resources be looked up?
> 
> resource = zapi.getPresenter((request, ), someinterface, name)

+1

>>> where often, name will be '' and can be ommitted:
>>
>> Btw, why does name default to ''. I find that a little implicit. I 
>> would much rather have it default to None.
> 
> No, because None is not a valid name. :)

None is *no* name. I think that's the message I want to get through. '' 
is a name, an empty one...

> I've trid it both ways. It's simpler in the long run to simply say that
> unnamed things are things with empty names.

Well, I still think it's icky.

Philipp