[Zope3-dev] Re: CSS-Style-Guide / looking for help

[Roger Ineichen]

Hi Tom

Tom von Schwerdtner [mailto:tomvons at gmail.com] 
> Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 9:42 PM
> To: dev at projekt01.ch
> Cc: Tonico Strasser; zope3-dev at zope.org
> Subject: Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: CSS-Style-Guide / looking for help
> 
> On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 20:47:10 +0100, Roger Ineichen 
> <dev at projekt01.ch> wrote:
> > Hi Tonico
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: zope3-dev-bounces+dev=projekt01.ch at zope.org
> > > [mailto:zope3-dev-bounces+dev=projekt01.ch at zope.org] On
> > > Behalf Of Tonico Strasser
> > > Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 3:11 PM
> > > To: zope3-dev at zope.org
> > > Cc: 'Peter Simmons'
> > > Subject: [Zope3-dev] Re: CSS-Style-Guide / looking for help
> > >
> > > Stephan Richter wrote:
> > > > On Friday 11 February 2005 17:22, Roger Ineichen wrote:
> > > >
> > > >>This is out of scope right now.
> > > >>I like such ideas, but we are on a lower level right now.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I agree; it would make much of the frameworks unnecessarily
> > > complicated. I
> > > > would be happy with simple class definitions myself.
> > > >
> > > > I would be also interested in reading what HTML elements
> > > should be used in
> > > > which scenarios. When to use tables and when to use
> > > dictionaries for example.
> > > >
> > >
> > > What are HTML dictionaries, did you mean definition lists?
> > >
> > > I find it difficult to discuss the correct HTML markup. Tables for
> > > layout, the correct heading level, using definition lists for
> > > something
> > > that is not a definition, class names and id names, b, i, br, the
> > > correct doctype, etc.
> > >
> > > We need to define at least the browser support level and the
> > > accessibility level before we can discuss the correct use of HTML
> > > elements, IMHO.
> > 
> > We define this as next.
> > 
> > Can you add this to the CSS proposal?
> > 
> > Please make differences between the ZMI and enduser skins.
> > 
> > I like to see a ZMi in which the navigation on the left side is
> > working correct. I don't think this is possible without tables.
> > 
> > If you see a way to use a tableless layout with a working left
> > navigation box let me know. Remember its width is dynamic.
> 
> Do we have a lower limit regarding browser support for having the UI
> how we want it to appear?  It would be easy to do this in all modern
> browsers, but things like NS4.7 would end up showing the navigation at
> the top before the content.  Not unusable, but not what we want them
> to see... but then do we really care what NS4 looks like, so long as
> it is usable?

I think you mean the ZMI with the UI.
Actually there is no support for Opera and how is the browser
calling for linux? Conquerror? 

I think the ZMi tree is just working on ie and moz.

W should at least fix the navigation which is shown in a second line
and add navigation tree support for all browsers.

I think stefan likes it to see the cookie tree in the ZMI.
But useing cookies as default... hm,?

btw;
Enduser, custom skins are out of scope. They have to be implemented
as a part of a custom project. 

Regards
Roger Ineichen


> -Tom
> 
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> Tom von Schwerdtner
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