[Zope3-dev] Re: Bug 358/359, 367 fixed

[Paul Everitt]

I agree.  To address Chris' complaint, we need a little background then 
a little discussion.

During the Rotterdam sprint long, long ago, the UI team and the 
sprinters as a whole agreed that the Zope 3 UI should be aimed at 
business users.  It should offer better performance, be more attractive, 
  and it was OK to focus on certain browsers.

(Whether the performance or attractive goals were met isn't important to 
this discussion.)

Since then, though, some Zope 3 folks not at that sprint have expressed 
issues with the choice.  Ultimately, it isn't clear to me who the 
default Zope 3 web UI is for: users or developers.

Saying "it look good in all browsers" either means a UI from the glory 
days of HTML 3.2, or more work than there currently are UI workers in 
Zope 3.  From a triage perspective, I think we have to be realistic 
about what browsers are supported, and that means a better understanding 
of who is and isn't going to use the web UI.

Just my two centimes.

--Paul

Roger Ineichen wrote:
> To all, 
> 
> I think it's time to report CSS problems
> we never take care on. Feel free to write a mail
> to me directly if you think you don't whant report it 
> to the mailinglist.
> 
> 
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: zope3-dev-bounces+dev=projekt01.ch at zope.org 
>>[mailto:zope3-dev-bounces+dev=projekt01.ch at zope.org] On 
>>Behalf Of E. Frerich
>>Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 9:51 PM
>>To: zope3-dev at zope.org
>>Cc: chris at simplistix.co.uk
>>Subject: Re: [Zope3-dev] Bug 358/359, 367 fixed
>>
>>Am 22 Feb 2005 um 20:12 hat Chris Withers geschrieben:
>>
>>
>>>requiring the end user to change their browser isn't generally an
>>>acceptable solution to a problem...
> 
> 
> Your absolutly right, but it's really not solved?
> 
> Is it not just a CSS/cache problem? Please refresh
> your browser cache before you install another browser. 
> 
> I have had the same, but after clear the CSS out of the browser
> cache it was working.
> 
> 
>>>Chris
>>
>>Generally I agree. But I assume this is an error in Mozilla 
>>1.7.3; stable 
>>release is 1.7.5; 1.8.5 is in beta.
> 
> 
> Sorry I don't have all this browsers for testing. ;-)
> 
> 
>>And I was happy that Roger eliminated partly the issue.
> 
> 
> ;-)
>  
> 
>>Egon
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>>
>>>E. Frerich wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>I installed Firefox - everything is ok
>>>>
>>>>Am 19 Feb 2005 um 11:14 hat E. Frerich geschrieben:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Hi Roger,
>>>>>
>>>>>bug 358/359: on IE I get two rows with the menu items,
>>>>>on Mozilla 1.7.3 the situation is worst. I attach an image.
>>>>>
>>>>>Egon
>>>>>
>>>>>Am 19 Feb 2005 um 2:21 hat Roger Ineichen geschrieben:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Please can somebody close the bugs 358/359 and 367
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Cleand up some odd CSS bugs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>What do you think about the bug 338.
>>>>>>I think this is the job of the apidoc.
>>>>>>There is now a link at the first page of the 
>>>>>>onlinehelp to the ++apidoc++.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Regards
>>>>>>Roger Ineichen
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